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===== Attendees =====  
 
===== Attendees =====  
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* Dr Alain Derom
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* Andries Dumont
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* Dr Alain Derom  
 
* Robin Bosman
 
* Robin Bosman
 
* Benny Verhamme  
 
* Benny Verhamme  
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* Frank Vandewiele
 
* Frederik Lenaerts  
 
* Frederik Lenaerts  
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* Gaston Verelst
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Jean-Michel Polfiet  
 
* Jean-Michel Polfiet  
 
* Joost Van Averbeke  
 
* Joost Van Averbeke  
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* Jos Bellen
 
* José Costa Teixeira  
 
* José Costa Teixeira  
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Kristof Jaubin
 
* Kristof Jaubin
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* Olivier Lothaire
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* Paul Neyens
 
* Peter Laridon
 
* Peter Laridon
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* Richard Francken
 
* Thibault Mahieu  
 
* Thibault Mahieu  
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* Theo Schumacher
 
 
* Tom Fiers  
 
* Tom Fiers  
 
   
 
   
 
===== Excused/Not present =====  
 
===== Excused/Not present =====  
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* Frank Vandewiele
 
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* Gaston Verelst
 
 
* Hendrik Plaetinck
 
* Hendrik Plaetinck
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* Jos Bellen
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* Theo Schumacher
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* Olivier Lothaire
 
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* Paul Neyens
 
  
 
===== Agenda =====
 
===== Agenda =====
 
* Review updates on examples
 
* Review updates on examples
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* Examples: volunteers ?
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* AOB
  
 
===== Minutes =====
 
===== Minutes =====
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* question on how to include messages on eHealth Box... ? to be clarified
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* Joost worked on examples and has questions on how to validate them against the Belgian profile
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* updates in the Lab report Guidance, see http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/guidance.html
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::* Joost is working on lab reports: biochemistry & 2 microbiologies after having received input from Tom
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::* how to refer to other resources: diagnostic report refers
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::* how to link an observation to a title?
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::::* you can refer to a bundle or to a contained resource, or a logical reference
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::::* within one observation you have hasMember to add member observations to create an hierarchy in your observations
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::::* see Guidance 3.13.& Minimal information concerning the subject: new information has been added concerning a FHIR logical reference i.e. we don't give a link where you can get the Patient, we don't give a path where the Patient might reside, we only give the patient's social scty number
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::::* component observation is different
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::::* same logic for the laboratory
 
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* how do we send all of this ?
 
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::* all send as contained or as bundles
 
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::::* Bundle example : http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Bundle-HematologyStudiesAsBundleCollection.htmll : every entry in the bundle has its identifier
 
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::::* Contained example: http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/DiagnosticReport-DiagnosticReportHematologyStudiesEverythingContained.html
 
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::* can you validate this ?
 
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::::* you can validate online as ready-to-go: see [http://hl7.org/fhir/validator/ hl7.org/fhir/validator] that you can run from the command line including your example: java -jar validator_cliR.jar example.xml -ig https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/
 
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* Anyone willing to work on examples ?
 
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::* what kind of example ? f.e. hemoculture, multiple specimens, basic hematology basic chemicstry report, basic without antibiogram and with antibiogram
 
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* Robin is sharing an update on the Guidance in 3.14.2, http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/guidance.html : whenever needed to express the MIME type of a FHIR message, its formal MIME type SHALL be used which is: XML or JSON
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* In HL7.org the observation resource has an element "derived from" that can point to 0 or more observations, see hl7.org/fhir/observation.html#obsgrouping
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::* do we need to give specific guidance around this see ? f.e. example http://hl7.org/fhir/observation-example-bmi-using-related.html
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::* lab gives the source of calculation (for most of the calculated items RETAM codes exist), not the formula in a lab report
  
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* How to validate your example ? See https://confluence.hl7.org/display/FHIR/Using+the+FHIR+Validator where you can refer to an implementation guide, f.e. the one where we are working on. You can refer to several implementation guides in the command line: C:\...>java -jar validator_cli.jar C:\...\testfiles -version 4.0 -ig https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report -ig hhtps://ehealthplatformstandards.github.io/ -html -output C:\...\result.html
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::* there are multiple ways to ask for output, can be an html file
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::* you can validate from the libraries
  
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* Action points for next meeting: work on additional examples - don't hesitate to reach out to us if you are blocked or if you hae a question
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* How will the project proceed ?
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::* eHealth Platform is busy gathering participants
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::* architectural part is being designed
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::* WG participants express the need for a visualisation as part of the project
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::::* you need a tool to assess the results for the one who creates the lab results and the one who reads the lab results
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::::* should the group describe the requirements for this kind of a visualisation ?
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::::* this has been managed well at the time of HL7 CDA and should be feasible now
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::* Robin will prepare something to be reviewed by next meeting
  
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'''Next Meeting:''' Monday April 19 April  at 4PM, since April 5 is Easter Monday, as such next meeting is in 4 weeks
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'''Next Meeting:''' Monday May 3 at 4PM

Latest revision as of 16:54, 19 April 2021

Attendees
  • Andries Dumont
  • Dr Alain Derom
  • Robin Bosman
  • Benny Verhamme
  • Frank Vandewiele
  • Frederik Lenaerts
  • Gaston Verelst
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jean-Michel Polfiet
  • Joost Van Averbeke
  • Jos Bellen
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Kristof Jaubin
  • Olivier Lothaire
  • Paul Neyens
  • Peter Laridon
  • Richard Francken
  • Thibault Mahieu
  • Tom Fiers
Excused/Not present
  • Hendrik Plaetinck
  • Theo Schumacher
Agenda
  • Review updates on examples
  • AOB
Minutes
  • Joost worked on examples and has questions on how to validate them against the Belgian profile
  • Joost is working on lab reports: biochemistry & 2 microbiologies after having received input from Tom
  • how to link an observation to a title?
  • within one observation you have hasMember to add member observations to create an hierarchy in your observations
  • component observation is different
  • Robin is sharing an update on the Guidance in 3.14.2, http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/guidance.html : whenever needed to express the MIME type of a FHIR message, its formal MIME type SHALL be used which is: XML or JSON
  • In HL7.org the observation resource has an element "derived from" that can point to 0 or more observations, see hl7.org/fhir/observation.html#obsgrouping
  • there are multiple ways to ask for output, can be an html file
  • you can validate from the libraries
  • How will the project proceed ?
  • eHealth Platform is busy gathering participants
  • architectural part is being designed
  • WG participants express the need for a visualisation as part of the project
  • you need a tool to assess the results for the one who creates the lab results and the one who reads the lab results
  • should the group describe the requirements for this kind of a visualisation ?
  • this has been managed well at the time of HL7 CDA and should be feasible now
  • Robin will prepare something to be reviewed by next meeting

Next Meeting: Monday May 3 at 4PM

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