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=== Attendees ===
 
=== Attendees ===
* Alain Godet
 
 
* Alexis Van Zeveren
 
* Alexis Van Zeveren
* Andries Demont
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* Anne Nerenhausen
 
* Bart Cornelissen
 
* Bart Cornelissen
 
* Bart Decuypere  
 
* Bart Decuypere  
* Florent Bayle
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* Cliff De Clerck
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* Fabrice Claes
 
* Frederik Lenaerts
 
* Frederik Lenaerts
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* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Jarno Schurmans
 
* Jarno Schurmans
* Jean-Michel Polfliet  
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* Jean-Michel Polfliet
* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Inge Sneppe
 
* Jacques Rossler
 
 
* Jelle Michiels  
 
* Jelle Michiels  
 
* Jeroen De Wilde
 
* Jeroen De Wilde
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* José Costa Teixeira
 
* José Costa Teixeira
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Karlien Erauw
* Kevin Poilvache
 
 
* Kris Bollen
 
* Kris Bollen
 
* Kristof Steurbaut
 
* Kristof Steurbaut
* Leen Granacher
 
* Lieve Verheyden
 
 
* Loic Carlier
 
* Loic Carlier
* Maarten Cobbaert
 
 
* Michael Wegge
 
* Michael Wegge
* Nathan Peeters
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* Michel Lio
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* Nick Sneijers
 
* Olivier Préaux
 
* Olivier Préaux
 
* Pieter Buntinck
 
* Pieter Buntinck
* Phidias
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* Werner De Mulder
  
 
=== Excused ===
 
=== Excused ===
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* Alain Godet
 
* Annabel Dompas
 
* Annabel Dompas
* Anne Nerenhausen
 
 
* Christophe Goethals
 
* Christophe Goethals
* Cliff Declerq
 
* Fabrice Claes
 
 
* Félix De Tavernier
 
* Félix De Tavernier
 
* Jens Penny  
 
* Jens Penny  
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* Marcelo Romero-Cors
 
* Marcelo Romero-Cors
 
* Mikael De Bie
 
* Mikael De Bie
* Michel Lio
 
* Nick Sneijers
 
 
* Philippe Lejoly
 
* Philippe Lejoly
 
* Philippe Quertemont
 
* Philippe Quertemont
 
* Walter Bollaert  
 
* Walter Bollaert  
* Werner Demulder
 
  
 
=== Agenda ===
 
=== Agenda ===
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=== Minutes ===
 
=== Minutes ===
* Smals presents the functional model and does a small demo of PSS - AM and PSS-radiology
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* RIZIV has also shared [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nhEJE-Xm8hbFK3YuRC-4MQqb5-b7qHFx/view?usp=sharing the latest version of the PSS Business Rules us]
* HUBrussels and UZ Leuven have raised fundamental concerns about the additional validation requested by the radiologist, Jacques points this out again; Loic asks if this way of working is being reanalyzed.
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* The logical model will be presented for feedback as from next meeting as the RIZIV project team is still working on it
::* Maarten clarified that this step was requested by the cabinet of the minister of Health Vandenbroucke
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::* this is out of scope of this technical working group
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* Start with a condition for which you want to startup a procedure, see diagrams [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mlls6JntDqnojCkk5BbkljX_9xW77AIV/view?usp=sharing here] and [https://drive.google.com/file/d/10_C1Z6yD_zbk29KFwnOCIrPcBa7JGi7K/view?usp=sharing here]
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::* some data will have to be provided to the PSS platform
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::::* f.e. pacemaker, claustrophobia
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::::* therefore there will be a questionnaire first, at least in some cases
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::* once the data are provided by PSS, PSS will reply
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::::* order options will then be provided by PSS provided in a score
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::* question on choice of physician: is new but unclear
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::::* will it be a BeReferral prescription or a medication request ?
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::::* will it be a reference (will not be anonymised) or an anonymised copy ?
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::* vision is that the data sent to PSS will not contain patient data
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::::* information will be exchanged but without reference to the patient
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::::* use of pseudonymization service will not be necessary
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::* user conclusion: has not been sufficiently documented, will be in the next version of the business rules, it will normally refer to existing caresets
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::::* will it be returned to PSS that the HCP has followed the recommendations
  
* Goal is to put a FHIR implementation guide for Belgium together
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::* We look into the open issues on the [https://github.com/hl7-be/pss/issues/ github]
::* Jose presents [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/pss/ build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/pss]
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::::* almost all are related to the project team's ongoing work and not relevant to the WG
::* see [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/pss/branches/master/functional-overview.html functional model here]
 
  
* RIZIV has also shared [https://docs.google.com/document/d/18VsrH225c6z4pYFC8CK-X70gqMFYu0v2/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true this document with us]
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::* We propose that the WG members wait to review the business rules for the next version to be shared, will be in 2 weeks. We will discuss this in the next WG meeting.
  
 
* Agenda for next meeting:
 
* Agenda for next meeting:
 
::* address open questions  
 
::* address open questions  
::* start work on the logical model towards the implementation guide
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::* start work on the logical model towards the FHIR implementation guide
  
 
'''Next meeting Friday 14 June at 9AM '''
 
'''Next meeting Friday 14 June at 9AM '''

Latest revision as of 07:35, 31 May 2024

Attendees

  • Alexis Van Zeveren
  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bart Cornelissen
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Cliff De Clerck
  • Fabrice Claes
  • Frederik Lenaerts
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jarno Schurmans
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • Jelle Michiels
  • Jeroen De Wilde
  • Johan Spincemaille
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Kris Bollen
  • Kristof Steurbaut
  • Loic Carlier
  • Michael Wegge
  • Michel Lio
  • Nick Sneijers
  • Olivier Préaux
  • Pieter Buntinck
  • Werner De Mulder

Excused

  • Alain Godet
  • Annabel Dompas
  • Christophe Goethals
  • Félix De Tavernier
  • Jens Penny
  • Loris Larazzo
  • Marcelo Romero-Cors
  • Mikael De Bie
  • Philippe Lejoly
  • Philippe Quertemont
  • Walter Bollaert

Agenda

  • Present functional model and start working on logical model

Minutes

  • Start with a condition for which you want to startup a procedure, see diagrams here and here
  • some data will have to be provided to the PSS platform
  • f.e. pacemaker, claustrophobia
  • therefore there will be a questionnaire first, at least in some cases
  • once the data are provided by PSS, PSS will reply
  • order options will then be provided by PSS provided in a score
  • question on choice of physician: is new but unclear
  • will it be a BeReferral prescription or a medication request ?
  • will it be a reference (will not be anonymised) or an anonymised copy ?
  • vision is that the data sent to PSS will not contain patient data
  • information will be exchanged but without reference to the patient
  • use of pseudonymization service will not be necessary
  • user conclusion: has not been sufficiently documented, will be in the next version of the business rules, it will normally refer to existing caresets
  • will it be returned to PSS that the HCP has followed the recommendations
  • We look into the open issues on the github
  • almost all are related to the project team's ongoing work and not relevant to the WG
  • We propose that the WG members wait to review the business rules for the next version to be shared, will be in 2 weeks. We will discuss this in the next WG meeting.
  • Agenda for next meeting:
  • address open questions
  • start work on the logical model towards the FHIR implementation guide

Next meeting Friday 14 June at 9AM