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::::* c. We often created dummy test codes to contain comments. E.g. serum aspect. Is this allowed? There are no LOINC codes for these dummies - will we allow every lab to use their own. Can we use this system? If not, how do we encode such comment? | ::::* c. We often created dummy test codes to contain comments. E.g. serum aspect. Is this allowed? There are no LOINC codes for these dummies - will we allow every lab to use their own. Can we use this system? If not, how do we encode such comment? | ||
::::* d. Comments regarding the laboratory (not the results). E.g. status of accreditation. We currently use dummy tests for that. Acceptable? If not, then how? | ::::* d. Comments regarding the laboratory (not the results). E.g. status of accreditation. We currently use dummy tests for that. Acceptable? If not, then how? | ||
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::::* e. Comments regarding tests performed by 3rd parties. We currently do that by means of flags (codes) next to results, and use a dummy test to explain the legend. Allowed? If not then how? | ::::* e. Comments regarding tests performed by 3rd parties. We currently do that by means of flags (codes) next to results, and use a dummy test to explain the legend. Allowed? If not then how? | ||
::::* f. Comments regarding administrative issue, e.g. missing information like gender, DOB. Today we use dummy test codes. Allowed? If not, then how? | ::::* f. Comments regarding administrative issue, e.g. missing information like gender, DOB. Today we use dummy test codes. Allowed? If not, then how? | ||
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::::* Do we want/need to agree on standards for the above? Or allwo every lab to do their own way? | ::::* Do we want/need to agree on standards for the above? Or allwo every lab to do their own way? | ||
::* there are 3 LOINC codes availabel 55752-0, 94330-8 and 86468-6 | ::* there are 3 LOINC codes availabel 55752-0, 94330-8 and 86468-6 | ||
− | ::* | + | ::* there is also a note field available for comments |
− | + | ::* on analysis level there are also comments | |
+ | ::* Issue can be moved to "for implementation" status | ||
+ | * Issue 31 given name (patient & practitioner) | ||
+ | ::* when a person has more than one given namen | ||
+ | ::* do it in one field in the FHIR resource or do it in seperate fields ? | ||
+ | ::* proposal to put it in one field as in the EID | ||
+ | * Issue 30: patient status during specimen collection | ||
+ | ::* Medina never fills this in so field should be optional | ||
+ | ::* on specimen resource there is a note field of type annotation where you can put any text | ||
+ | * Issue 25: same issue as 33 but on different level (at diagnostic report level while issue 33 is on level) | ||
+ | ::* move to "done" | ||
+ | * Issue 47 : RequestCode | ||
+ | ::* where to put the RequestCode : don't put it in the lab result | ||
+ | ::* the protocol will not always match the request | ||
+ | ::* the analysis order codes cannot be mapped 1-to-1 to lab codes | ||
+ | * Issue: | ||
'''Next Meeting:''' on Tuesday Dec 21 4PM | '''Next Meeting:''' on Tuesday Dec 21 4PM |
Revision as of 15:44, 14 December 2021
Attendees
- Dr Alain Derom
- Bart Decuypere
- Frederik Lenaerts
- Hans De Keersmaecker
- Jean-Michel Polfiet
- Jos Bellen
- Karlien Erauw
- Kristof Jaubin
- Olivier Lothaire
- Philippe Cauchie (let at 4.30PM)
- Thibault Mahieu
- Tom Tollenaere
- Richard Francken
- Stefan Waegemans
- Werner De Mulder
Excused/Not present
- Alexis Van Zeveren
- Benny Verhamme
- Frédéric Istace
- Frederik De Kegel
- Joost Van Averbeke
- José Costa Teixeira
- Mieke Buckinx
- Nico Vannieuwenhuyze
- Nick Hermans
- Paul Neyens
- Peter Laridon
- Robert Nicolas
- Theo Schumacher
- Tom Fiers
- Toon Schiemsky
Agenda
- Rework on issues resulted from the pilot phase, issues #48 and #50 having priority
Minutes
- Up-to-date list of issues can be consulted here
- Issue 33 : DiagnosticReport.code : coding same as composition type
- Set both to "laboratory report"?
- In examples we find e.g. Hematology studies, but our reports are typically more extensive than only hematology
- subject of lab report will be in the subject f.e. hematology will appear as chapter in lab report
- proposal: not to put the type at this level in the lab report, just call it laboratory studies
- Bart looked at LOINC codes (11502-2, not coded as RETAM yet at federal level)
- Philippe proposes to test this first (later today), be careful that an hematology study comes from another service
- let's allow it for now and await the tests
- Issue 23: How to encode comments
- We need to specify how to deal with different kinds of comments. Here an inventory and suggestion of process:
- a. Comment on a result of analysis - may be done .note to the result? But there are different cases possible:
- a.i. result field itself maybe comment or text (e.g. "Positive" or "No longer performed by lab; replaced by analyses XXX"
- a.ii. Comment in commentfield may be combined with number (or comment0 in result field)
- b. Comment regd. reference values (e.g. age-specifics) – in .text to the reference values?
- c. We often created dummy test codes to contain comments. E.g. serum aspect. Is this allowed? There are no LOINC codes for these dummies - will we allow every lab to use their own. Can we use this system? If not, how do we encode such comment?
- d. Comments regarding the laboratory (not the results). E.g. status of accreditation. We currently use dummy tests for that. Acceptable? If not, then how?
- e. Comments regarding tests performed by 3rd parties. We currently do that by means of flags (codes) next to results, and use a dummy test to explain the legend. Allowed? If not then how?
- f. Comments regarding administrative issue, e.g. missing information like gender, DOB. Today we use dummy test codes. Allowed? If not, then how?
- g. There is also a .conclusionCode - to use instead of dummy analyses? Or a combination? Dummy analysis have the advantage they can be linked to a sample (useful e.g. for serum aspect) - .conclusionCodes cannot do this.
- Do we want/need to agree on standards for the above? Or allwo every lab to do their own way?
- there are 3 LOINC codes availabel 55752-0, 94330-8 and 86468-6
- there is also a note field available for comments
- on analysis level there are also comments
- Issue can be moved to "for implementation" status
- Issue 31 given name (patient & practitioner)
- when a person has more than one given namen
- do it in one field in the FHIR resource or do it in seperate fields ?
- proposal to put it in one field as in the EID
- Issue 30: patient status during specimen collection
- Medina never fills this in so field should be optional
- on specimen resource there is a note field of type annotation where you can put any text
- Issue 25: same issue as 33 but on different level (at diagnostic report level while issue 33 is on level)
- move to "done"
- Issue 47 : RequestCode
- where to put the RequestCode : don't put it in the lab result
- the protocol will not always match the request
- the analysis order codes cannot be mapped 1-to-1 to lab codes
- Issue:
Next Meeting: on Tuesday Dec 21 4PM