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::* each service request group has its own ID without group ID, is a requestGroup is always created, there is an ID so no group ID is needed anymore
 
::* each service request group has its own ID without group ID, is a requestGroup is always created, there is an ID so no group ID is needed anymore
  
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* latest version of issues : https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/183* latest version of issues : https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
 
* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/185 : type of nursing / non-reimbursed services
 
* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/185 : type of nursing / non-reimbursed services
 
::* there are two types of other: RIZIV started with the reimbursed services, the business asked to also include non-reimbursed services f.e. sample taking, often asked by presribers to do by the nurses
 
::* there are two types of other: RIZIV started with the reimbursed services, the business asked to also include non-reimbursed services f.e. sample taking, often asked by presribers to do by the nurses
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::::* there is a text field part of the codeable concept
 
::::* there is a text field part of the codeable concept
  
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/184 -do we to mark some resources on must support ?
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/184 - Task: do we to mark some resources on must support ?
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::* statusReason
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/184
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::* the intent is a proposal, an order can be prolongation of an existing order ; would be good to limit the intent to proposal and order
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/182 - narrative
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::* benefit of narrative is that anyone can understand, mandatory for HL7 int'l
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::* backend will have to provide input
  
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* Annex 81: provided by Jacques Yakoub - for this annex there are some specific value codes: transition is made to the Snomed CT codes. Code for Annex 81 is present in the business rules document and will have to be validated with Snomed CT. Snomed CT does have a long release cycle though so it is important to have a list ready asap...
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* use of UCUM units: this is indeed the general guideline
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
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::* should this be enforced ?
  
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* we discuss [https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/search/timing.20datatype.20puzzle the timing datatype discussion] that was started by Bart for this WG
 
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::* the suggestions on the FHIR chat are not sufficient
 
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::* there are at least different 3 use cases that we have to formulate and move forward to HL7 int'l to check if they are covering them
 
  
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* issue https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/176
 
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::* accept only SSIN as identifier : this might cause issues if an SSIN is not immediately available but receives once afterwards, a SSIN can also change
 
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::::* a SSIN can get updated in GP softs through RN consult webservice
 
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::::* will have to be further investigated
 
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::::* functionality PIX Patient Identity Cross-referencing: https://profiles.ihe.net/ITI/PIXm/index.html
 
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::* limit format of dates that are entered
 
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::::* in FHIR incomplete dates can be entered
 
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::::* can be seen as an implementation preference
 
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::::* nomenclatuur needs a fixed date
 
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::* 1/ subject, requester, performer: invariant will be created with today's remarks that can be discussed
 
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::* 2/ validity...: can be implemented
 
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::* 3/ statusReason: is technical, no discussion needed
 
  
 
=== Agenda next meeting ===
 
=== Agenda next meeting ===
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* updates from HL7 international on RequestGroup
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* updates on use cases for RequestGroup
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* review issues
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* resolution of issues
  
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'''Next meeting: in 2 weeks Week Thursday 10 Nov at 4PM (due to school holiday week next week)'''
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'''Next meeting: next week Thursday 3 Nov at 4PM (it is a school holiday week next week so some issues may be postponed to Nov 10)'''

Latest revision as of 07:23, 28 October 2022

Attendees

  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Bart Reekmans
  • Benjamien Schmitt
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jacques Yaboub
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Maarten Cobbaert
  • Marleen Van Eygen

Excused

  • Christophe Behaegel
  • Dorsan De Fabribeckers De Cortils Et Grâce, smals
  • Geert Vandenhole
  • Jean-Francois Coquelet
  • Katleen Smedts
  • Laurent Lamouline, smals
  • Pieter Devolder
  • Philippe Baise
  • Richard Francken

Agenda

  • resolution of issues

Meeting Minutes

  • preference that there is always a request group even there is always one order
  • requestGroup would be named requestOrchestration in FHIR release 5, so not
  • see details in document
  • please provide some input for the use case as input in the document for HL7 int'l
  • each service request group has its own ID without group ID, is a requestGroup is always created, there is an ID so no group ID is needed anymore


  • there are two types of other: RIZIV started with the reimbursed services, the business asked to also include non-reimbursed services f.e. sample taking, often asked by presribers to do by the nurses
  • what is the difference between non-reimbursed-services & other?
  • this is remaining/outdated from a previous version and will be removed
  • there is a text field part of the codeable concept
  • statusReason
  • the intent is a proposal, an order can be prolongation of an existing order ; would be good to limit the intent to proposal and order
  • benefit of narrative is that anyone can understand, mandatory for HL7 int'l
  • backend will have to provide input
  • use of UCUM units: this is indeed the general guideline
  • should this be enforced ?


Agenda next meeting

  • updates on use cases for RequestGroup
  • resolution of issues

Next meeting: next week Thursday 3 Nov at 4PM (it is a school holiday week next week so some issues may be postponed to Nov 10)

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