Difference between revisions of "Minutes - Medication WG 2023-02-14"

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* Anne Nerenhausen
 
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* Hanne Vuegen
 
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::* gender: '''change of codes is needed as kmehr values are slightly different than the ones in FHIR'''
 
::* gender: '''change of codes is needed as kmehr values are slightly different than the ones in FHIR'''
 
::* transactions
 
::* transactions
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::::* isComplete, isValidated: what do we need this for?
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::::::* in kmehr the idea was that the GP could validate all the medication lines, it is too much work so it is not used
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::::::* in Zorgi the MS has a validation: a nurse will record the MS upon intake of a patient in the hospital, a physician validates the MS medically
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::::::* FHIR status has plenty of values
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::* in kmehr MS a BeginMoment is required
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::* lifecycle: the suspension of a product
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::* instruction for patient vs text: what is the difference
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::::* can anyone  look this up ?
  
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* Update on work done value sets : [https://github.com/hl7-be/medication-record/issues/24#issuecomment-1402685781 see here]
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::* not everything from kmehr will be converted into FHR
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::* NHS recommends UCUM if available
 
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::* Jens started with the kmehr codes (as we will need a mapping with kmehr as everything is in kmehr now and we don't want to lose functionality) and proposes to extend it to encompass ucum
 
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::::* ucum provides endless combinations, where will be stop this ?
 
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::::* kmehr was not complete
 
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::* Belgian Snomed CT is [[browser.ihtsdotools.org|available from here]], choosing [https://browser.ihtsdotools.org/?perspective=full&conceptId1=404684003&edition=MAIN/SNOMEDCT-BE/2022-11-15&release=&languages=en,nl,fr the Belgian version]
 
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::* how do we handle packaging ?
 
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::* here's a [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zE6XajrjaInuDHA6yT6plZAx7AimlBIT/edit list that is currently used on the field]
 
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::* all participants are asked to [https://github.com/hl7-be/medication-record/issues/24#issuecomment-1402685781 review the work done] and the document that is referenced in the issue
 
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::* can the list be turned into 2 parts (one without questions, another one with questions to raise to eHealth platform-kmehr experts TBC) so that we can compile it to one list and afterwards we can ask feedback to NRC
 
  
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* The current mapping from the current kmehr medication scheme (the parts that matter) to FHIR resources
 
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::* see https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/medication-record/medicationrecord-fhir-resources.html
 
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::* kmehr: see https://www.ehealth.fgov.be/standards/kmehr/en/transactions/medication-scheme-element
 
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::* there is some documentation missing on the kmehr medication scheme
 
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::* the FHIR medication scheme has to be at least functional as the current kmehr MS
 
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::* the current MS is around messages and as such sender & receiver - this will be different in FHIR
 
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::* FHIR MS will be a document that can be consulted many times
 
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::* author in kmehr context: the author that decides that the content is good enough to send the message
 
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::::* we will recommend that in FHIR we need an "author" that is responsible for the whole of the MS
 
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::::* FHIR has a lifecycle that currently does not exist
 
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::* the FHIR MS will be a bundle
 
 
'''Agenda items for next meeting'''
 
'''Agenda items for next meeting'''
 
* feedback on presented valueset
 
* feedback on presented valueset
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* review mapping kmehr medication scheme to FHIR
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* validation of FHIR medication scheme
  
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'''Next meeting 7 Feb at 11AM'''
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'''Next meeting 28 February at 11AM'''

Latest revision as of 14:12, 14 February 2023

Attendees
  • Annemieke Vergauwe
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Dieter Sauvillers
  • Jan Lenie
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Katrien Thorré
  • Lodewijk Sioen
  • Pablo Christiaens
  • Tom Henkens
  • Walter Bollaert
Excused/Not present
  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bruno Casneuf
  • Hanne Vuegen
  • Jens Penny
  • Lars Vanreppelen
  • Richard Francken
  • Marc Buckens
  • Nick Hermans
  • Nils Devos
  • Thomas Van Langendonck
  • Tom De Backer
  • Will van Norel
Agenda
  • Mapping from the current kmehr medication scheme into FHIR
  • Mapping of posology
Minutes
  • Medication scheme is a document that is a snapshot of what a patient/person currently takes
  • it has an author, date
  • FHIR MS will also have an author
  • it is confirmed that there is an author per line - we need to add this
  • there is also an author for all
  • FHIR: patient identifier --> NIS number
  • gender: change of codes is needed as kmehr values are slightly different than the ones in FHIR
  • transactions
  • isComplete, isValidated: what do we need this for?
  • in kmehr the idea was that the GP could validate all the medication lines, it is too much work so it is not used
  • in Zorgi the MS has a validation: a nurse will record the MS upon intake of a patient in the hospital, a physician validates the MS medically
  • FHIR status has plenty of values
  • in kmehr MS a BeginMoment is required
  • lifecycle: the suspension of a product
  • instruction for patient vs text: what is the difference
  • can anyone look this up ?
  • not everything from kmehr will be converted into FHR

Agenda items for next meeting

  • feedback on presented valueset
  • validation of FHIR medication scheme

Next meeting 28 February at 11AM

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