Difference between revisions of "Minutes - Referral WG 2023-06-16"

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=== Attendees ===
 
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* Anne Nerenhausen
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* Anthony Maton
 
* Bart Decuypere
 
* Bart Decuypere
 
* Bart Reekmans
 
* Bart Reekmans
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* Ben Goosse
 
* Cyprien Janssens
 
* Cyprien Janssens
 
* Emily Sevrin
 
* Emily Sevrin
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* Geert Vandenhole
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet
 
* Julien Beard
 
* Julien Beard
 
* Karlien Erauw  
 
* Karlien Erauw  
* Lionel Cremer
 
 
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* Philippe Baise
 
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=== Excused ===
 
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* Alexis Van Zeveren
 
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* Anne Nerenhausen
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* Christophe Behaegel
 
* Christophe Behaegel
 
* Dorsan de Fabricheckers
 
* Dorsan de Fabricheckers
* Geert Vandenhole
 
 
* Jacques Yakoub
 
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* Katrien Dickx
 
* Katrien Dickx
 
* Katrien Thorré
 
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* Marleen Van Eygen  
 
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* Maxime Daive
 
 
* Nathan Peeters  
 
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=== Meeting Minutes ===
 
=== Meeting Minutes ===
 
* Project Update
 
* Project Update
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::* coobkbook pseudonmisation is missing details, a new update will be released by eHealth Platform, no update on when we might expecdt this
  
* Update from Cyprien on[https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/250 usse "is performer the correct place"]:  
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* Update from Cyprien on [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/250 usse "is performer the correct place"]:  
 
::* mainly ons SR is used for the phase 1 templates
 
::* mainly ons SR is used for the phase 1 templates
 
::* bePerformerTask is used  
 
::* bePerformerTask is used  
 
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::* working towards needing to do only one call
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::* $graph resource will be used, which can return a bundle, a set of resources
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* Continue resolution of issues
 
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* continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases
 
* continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases
  
'''Next meeting: next week Friday 16 June at 9AM '''
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'''Next meeting: next week Friday 30 June at 9AM '''

Revision as of 07:16, 16 June 2023

Attendees

  • Anthony Maton
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Bart Reekmans
  • Ben Goosse
  • Cyprien Janssens
  • Emily Sevrin
  • Geert Vandenhole
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • Julien Beard
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Maarten Cobbaert
  • Maxime Daive
  • Philippe Baise
  • Philippe Lejoly
  • Robin Merckx

Excused

  • Alexis Van Zeveren
  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Christophe Behaegel
  • Dorsan de Fabricheckers
  • Jacques Yakoub
  • Jean-Francois Coquelet
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Katleen Smedts
  • Katrien Dickx
  • Katrien Thorré
  • Lionel Cremer
  • Marleen Van Eygen
  • Nathan Peeters
  • Laurent Lamouline
  • Pablo Christiaens
  • Pieter Devolder
  • Richard Francken

Agenda

  • continue resolution of issues (214, 250 and new issues)

Meeting Minutes

  • Project Update
  • coobkbook pseudonmisation is missing details, a new update will be released by eHealth Platform, no update on when we might expecdt this
  • mainly ons SR is used for the phase 1 templates
  • bePerformerTask is used
  • working towards needing to do only one call
  • $graph resource will be used, which can return a bundle, a set of resources
  • the graph operation will be on the service request
  • there is an example of this bundle, starting with the SR, then practioner role resource
  • review has been finalised and WG agrees with this solution so issue can be closed
  • practioner role is in a contained resource and cannot be searched
  • several stakeholders prefer option 1 instead of an extension
  • Julien thinks that performerType is the correct place but the cardinality at int'l level is 0 to 1 and we need O to * not correct so we would need an extension and this is not narrowing down
  • could it work with a practioner role ? we need multiple performer types as sometimes the request can be performed by different types of performers to fulfill one service request (f.e. diabetes education by nurse & physiotherapist)
  • option is to force the prescriber to choose the type of the performer
  • the prescribers (HCP) need to be consulted to proceed in this way
  • to check if this needs a change in the logical model
  • a performer task must be linked to a prescription via basedOn
  • field basedOn is not mustSupport, needs indeed to be changed to mustSupport
  • needs indeed to be changed to mustSupport
  • INAMI reasoning: there is no way/a lack in Belgium to identify a HCP so the proposed way is the only way to identify the HCP that is meaningful
  • does a HCP that performs a referral not always have a INAMI number? it indeed exists that a nurse does not have an INAMI number, f.e. a nurse that works in a hospital; an example needs to be provided
  • When consulting prescriptions, it is important to be able to search by nihii number and not just by niss. This is important for both the performer and the requester
  • the INAMI number is not saved, you can consult it through Cobhra it it is there
  • a HCP can perform care tasks using the INAMI number of a hospitaln (often foreigners)
  • a visa is the right to practice
  • students receive a temporary INAMI number, after their specialisation it can change
  • the "contained resource" concept will not used in the UHMEP project
  • it is stated that searches in contained resources are feasible
  • in a contained resource you can put your own reference
  • issue 242 is still open outside of the June release but important


  • looking into "1.9 Education and self-care for diabetes patients without a care path", see example here


Agenda next meeting

  • continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases

Next meeting: next week Friday 30 June at 9AM