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* '''Q&A on Toms presentation''' | * '''Q&A on Toms presentation''' | ||
::* Reporting on voluntary basis : consequence on integrity of record – patient record is per definition incomplete – privacy is OK | ::* Reporting on voluntary basis : consequence on integrity of record – patient record is per definition incomplete – privacy is OK | ||
− | ::* Data is kept for 12 months: determined by Belgian | + | ::* Data is kept for 12 months: determined by Belgian privacy commission, file has been submitted |
::::For clinical assessment a longer history can be of value- 12 months could be changed after consultation of privacycommission – 12 years : other purpose - value for doctors, not for pharmacists | ::::For clinical assessment a longer history can be of value- 12 months could be changed after consultation of privacycommission – 12 years : other purpose - value for doctors, not for pharmacists | ||
::::Local pharmacy record has to be kept for at least 10 years, destroyed in 30 years | ::::Local pharmacy record has to be kept for at least 10 years, destroyed in 30 years | ||
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::::::Could by replaced by GTIN in the future ? Or use a 2nd number ? Could be interesting discussion point for this WG | ::::::Could by replaced by GTIN in the future ? Or use a 2nd number ? Could be interesting discussion point for this WG | ||
::::*ISNZ: valid, valid format | ::::*ISNZ: valid, valid format | ||
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::* What are the medata: | ::* What are the medata: | ||
::::* key and value | ::::* key and value | ||
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::::* new keys can be added quite easily in the future without having to change the model | ::::* new keys can be added quite easily in the future without having to change the model | ||
::*A message can have multiple dispensations | ::*A message can have multiple dispensations | ||
− | + | :::* within each session multiple reports | |
::::* patient ID will be the same and appear multiple times | ::::* patient ID will be the same and appear multiple times | ||
::::* no central reconciliation is done therefore the patient ID comes back multiple times | ::::* no central reconciliation is done therefore the patient ID comes back multiple times | ||
− | ::::* no interlink between products if they | + | ::::* no interlink between products if they affect each other’s posology |
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+ | ::* A "data quality" / Reliability factor is available in the file, for now it always reports 50%. | ||
* '''Proposals on next action points:''' should we work on GoogleDocs to work on attributes in between our next meeting in order to work on our information model ? Suggestions for the next step ? | * '''Proposals on next action points:''' should we work on GoogleDocs to work on attributes in between our next meeting in order to work on our information model ? Suggestions for the next step ? | ||
::* Jan prepared Json file for model on medication dispense, would like to start translation, would like to check model with provided examples | ::* Jan prepared Json file for model on medication dispense, would like to start translation, would like to check model with provided examples | ||
− | ::* Proposal to start putting things in the right place, keeping our model | + | ::* Proposal to start putting things in the right place, keeping our model up to date, checking which data and metadata we need/want |
::* Looking at examples (FHIR and other) and check if we have them in our model | ::* Looking at examples (FHIR and other) and check if we have them in our model | ||
::* Jan prefers to start working with examples to see whether they are mapped on the model or if they are missing | ::* Jan prefers to start working with examples to see whether they are mapped on the model or if they are missing | ||
+ | ::* Have a look at the Dutch ZIB's (bouwstenen): medicatieverstrekking building block; clinical & logistical side | ||
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* '''Agenda points for next call''' | * '''Agenda points for next call''' | ||
::*Have a look at Jan’s examples | ::*Have a look at Jan’s examples | ||
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::::We already have a Google drive [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hVBJB79XIyS7NiDlZj2odZgXuCegZXdv HL7 BE Medication] | ::::We already have a Google drive [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hVBJB79XIyS7NiDlZj2odZgXuCegZXdv HL7 BE Medication] | ||
::::Karlien will make everyone editor & send the link | ::::Karlien will make everyone editor & send the link | ||
− | ::* Goal is to have a logical model for medication dispense | + | ::* Goal is to have a logical model for medication dispense (and a profile) that can be published pretty soon |
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Latest revision as of 11:50, 25 April 2020
Attendees
- Jan Lenie
- Annemieke Vergauwe
- Will Van Norel
- Richard Francken
- Tom Henkens
- Jens Penny
- José Costa Teixeira
- Karlien Erauw
- Robin Bosman
Agenda
- Review previous meeting minutes
- Demo of Tom on Farmaflux
- Look at collected information
- Determine first action points
Minutes
- Review of previous meeting minutes : postponed to next meeting - please send in your comments to Karlien
- Presentation of Farmaflux by Tom: see here
- Q&A on Toms presentation
- Reporting on voluntary basis : consequence on integrity of record – patient record is per definition incomplete – privacy is OK
- Data is kept for 12 months: determined by Belgian privacy commission, file has been submitted
- For clinical assessment a longer history can be of value- 12 months could be changed after consultation of privacycommission – 12 years : other purpose - value for doctors, not for pharmacists
- Local pharmacy record has to be kept for at least 10 years, destroyed in 30 years
- Farmaflux is cleaning up after 12 months, archived out of database
- Quality control: checks that are done in Farmaflux are:
- CNK ID : valid, valid format
- Only medication is accepted (registration file – CNK ID tells if it is medication)
- Pharmacy never gives INN, translates this into product
- Could by replaced by GTIN in the future ? Or use a 2nd number ? Could be interesting discussion point for this WG
- ISNZ: valid, valid format
- What are the medata:
- key and value
- not used a lot as for the moment
- new keys can be added quite easily in the future without having to change the model
- A message can have multiple dispensations
- within each session multiple reports
- patient ID will be the same and appear multiple times
- no central reconciliation is done therefore the patient ID comes back multiple times
- no interlink between products if they affect each other’s posology
- A "data quality" / Reliability factor is available in the file, for now it always reports 50%.
- Proposals on next action points: should we work on GoogleDocs to work on attributes in between our next meeting in order to work on our information model ? Suggestions for the next step ?
- Jan prepared Json file for model on medication dispense, would like to start translation, would like to check model with provided examples
- Proposal to start putting things in the right place, keeping our model up to date, checking which data and metadata we need/want
- Looking at examples (FHIR and other) and check if we have them in our model
- Jan prefers to start working with examples to see whether they are mapped on the model or if they are missing
- Have a look at the Dutch ZIB's (bouwstenen): medicatieverstrekking building block; clinical & logistical side
- Agenda points for next call
- Have a look at Jan’s examples
- Jose will share a draft document with necessary fields to work on
- We already have a Google drive HL7 BE Medication
- Karlien will make everyone editor & send the link
- Goal is to have a logical model for medication dispense (and a profile) that can be published pretty soon