Difference between revisions of "Minutes - Medication WG 2020-05-26"

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===== Attendees =====
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===== '''Attendees''' =====
 
* Jan Lenie
 
* Jan Lenie
 
* Tom Henkens
 
* Tom Henkens
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* Elhassan Baazizi, APB
 
* Elhassan Baazizi, APB
  
===== Excused =====
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===== '''Excused''' =====
 
* Richard Francken
 
* Richard Francken
 
* Pascal Berghmans
 
* Pascal Berghmans
  
===== Agenda =====
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===== '''Agenda''' =====
 
* Review of Dispense Record : Logical datamodel & profiling
 
* Review of Dispense Record : Logical datamodel & profiling
  
===== Meeting Minutes =====
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===== '''Meeting Minutes''' =====
 
* Review of remarks on Logical Datamodel of dispense record
 
* Review of remarks on Logical Datamodel of dispense record
: * Fit a dispenser and dispensing organization in one object that can then be a dispenser/person or an organisation: ok
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:* Fit a dispenser and dispensing organization in one object that can then be a dispenser/person or an organisation: ok
: * e-prescribed flag: it will be a challenge to put this in the resource
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:* e-prescribed flag: it will be a challenge to put this in the resource
::: * Have RIDS available to patient: makes no sense, is no business case
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:::* Have RIDS available to patient: makes no sense, is no business case
::: * Park is aside and discuss with RIZIV/business first
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:::* Park aside and discuss with RIZIV/business first
::: * Boolean type doesn’t make sense, add dummy void /text alternative for the resource if we don’t have the identifier (in display)
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:::* Boolean type doesn’t make sense, add dummy void /text alternative for the resource if we don’t have the identifier (in display)
: * What is a dispense session: everything you do a purchase in a pharmacy and receive one receipt, this is the session GUI
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:* What is a dispense session: everything you do a purchase in a pharmacy and receive one receipt, this is the session GUI
  
 
* Review of  
 
* Review of  
: * http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication
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:* http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication
: * http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/StructureDefinition-be-medicationdispense.html
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:* http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/StructureDefinition-be-medicationdispense.html
::: * Identifier: type is still open, does not need to be discussed now
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:::* Identifier: type is still open, does not need to be discussed now
::::: * Same NIHDI can be attributed to pharmacy and to other healthcare provider : Marc will give Robin some examples of issues with NIHDI
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:::::* Same NIHDI can be attributed to pharmacy and to other healthcare provider : Marc will give Robin some examples of issues with NIHDI
::::: * side remark: Could CBO number (crossbank identifier) be used ?
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:::::* side remark: Could CBO number (crossbank identifier) be used ?
::: * Need for URL for GUID of dispenses: are these stored somewhere ?
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:::* Need for URL for GUID of dispenses: are these stored somewhere ?
::: * Need for more info from Jan & Marc: where does the shared pharmaceutical record live ?
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:::* Need for more info from Jan & Marc: where does the shared pharmaceutical record live ?
: * http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/artifacts.html
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:* http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/artifacts.html
: * ‘part of’ has been added, as optional field, useful for the receiving system (functional impact)
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:* ‘part of’ has been added, as optional field, useful for the receiving system (functional impact)
: * Quantity: this is an optional field
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:* Quantity: this is an optional field
::: * Do we want to provide this, even if this is 1 ? yes
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:::* Do we want to provide this, even if this is 1 ? yes
::: * Is there any case when there is no quantity (magistral preparations)?
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:::* Is there any case when there is no quantity (magistral preparations)?
::: * Do we want to use a codesystem for Belgium ? then we will need to work on terminology ?
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:::* Do we want to use a codesystem for Belgium ? then we will need to work on terminology ?
: * daysSupply: for long term care (f.e. when narcotics can not be handed over at once)
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:* daysSupply: for long term care (f.e. when narcotics can not be handed over at once)
: * WhenHandedOver: time is not useful, only date is sufficient
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:* WhenHandedOver: time is not useful, only date is sufficient
: * WhenPrepared: not needed
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:* WhenPrepared: not needed
Jose will cover 5-6 examples to be able to solve all the topics
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Jose will cover 5-6 examples to be able to solve all the topics and remaining issues
  
 
'''FOR ACTION for all asap & by next meeting:'''
 
'''FOR ACTION for all asap & by next meeting:'''
* please provide your input on "profiling decisions & open topics” in this [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UmvofN4XPOEbxvDMnvrtxRvwpf7pdN-9mc4flsaTUZI google document as from page 3]
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* Please provide your comments and feedback on the profiling in the section "profiling decisions & open topics” in this [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UmvofN4XPOEbxvDMnvrtxRvwpf7pdN-9mc4flsaTUZI google document as from page 3]

Latest revision as of 15:55, 26 May 2020

Attendees
  • Jan Lenie
  • Tom Henkens
  • Marc Buckens
  • Annemieke Vergauwe
  • Will van Norel
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Robin Bosman
  • Jens Penny
  • Nick Hermans
  • Elhassan Baazizi, APB
Excused
  • Richard Francken
  • Pascal Berghmans
Agenda
  • Review of Dispense Record : Logical datamodel & profiling
Meeting Minutes
  • Review of remarks on Logical Datamodel of dispense record
  • Fit a dispenser and dispensing organization in one object that can then be a dispenser/person or an organisation: ok
  • e-prescribed flag: it will be a challenge to put this in the resource
  • Have RIDS available to patient: makes no sense, is no business case
  • Park aside and discuss with RIZIV/business first
  • Boolean type doesn’t make sense, add dummy void /text alternative for the resource if we don’t have the identifier (in display)
  • What is a dispense session: everything you do a purchase in a pharmacy and receive one receipt, this is the session GUI
  • Review of
  • Identifier: type is still open, does not need to be discussed now
  • Same NIHDI can be attributed to pharmacy and to other healthcare provider : Marc will give Robin some examples of issues with NIHDI
  • side remark: Could CBO number (crossbank identifier) be used ?
  • Need for URL for GUID of dispenses: are these stored somewhere ?
  • Need for more info from Jan & Marc: where does the shared pharmaceutical record live ?
  • Do we want to provide this, even if this is 1 ? yes
  • Is there any case when there is no quantity (magistral preparations)?
  • Do we want to use a codesystem for Belgium ? then we will need to work on terminology ?
  • daysSupply: for long term care (f.e. when narcotics can not be handed over at once)
  • WhenHandedOver: time is not useful, only date is sufficient
  • WhenPrepared: not needed

Jose will cover 5-6 examples to be able to solve all the topics and remaining issues

FOR ACTION for all asap & by next meeting:

  • Please provide your comments and feedback on the profiling in the section "profiling decisions & open topics” in this google document as from page 3