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* NIHDI uniqueness issue | * NIHDI uniqueness issue | ||
| + | * remarks on updates on profiling | ||
'''Meeting Minutes''' | '''Meeting Minutes''' | ||
| + | * most recent updates on [http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/branches/master/StructureDefinition-be-medicationdispense.html profiling (changes in medication dispense)] are currently not available online as build is being done locally, should be available tomorrow | ||
| + | * question: actors - display is not part of identifier: has been clarified | ||
| + | * NIHDI identifier issue | ||
| + | ::* NIHDI presents a caregiver/professional or an organization/pharmacy, within professional/organization it is unique – what we need to do is adding 2 naming systems | ||
| + | ::::* NIHDI for professional | ||
| + | ::::* NIHDI for organisation | ||
| + | ::* Profile on medication dispense has 2 slices – performer-dispensingPerson and performer-dispensingOrganization | ||
| + | ::::* at least one has to be there - this will be enforced (important also for traceability) | ||
| + | ::::* Issue f.e. for bandagists as they don't have a NIHDI. Idea is that one performer is mandatory but a local identifier could be used | ||
| + | ::* Type of dispenser (f.e. intramuros pharmacy, extramuros pharmacy, physiotherapist, nurse, GP, doctor-specialist, ...) | ||
| + | ::::* NIHDI professional will not specify the type of the professional (nurse, GP, specialists, …) | ||
| + | ::::* Type of organization is vital information in Belgium f.e. regarding checking authorizations of dispenses | ||
| + | ::::* Can this be looked up within our FHIR profiling if the lookup exists ;Look up can have an impact, do we want the dispense to fail ? | ||
| + | ::::* Complexity should be solved at the origin, not at the client side | ||
| + | ::::* Can we kick out GFD-pharmacy and use the eHealth numbering (metadata from eHealth) | ||
| + | ::::* BePractioner should be common in Belgium | ||
| + | ::::* BeMedicationDispense: will also be used by vending machine, hospitals, vaccination organization, pharmacy,… | ||
| + | ::* NIDHI of practioners can “evolve”: last 3 digits have speciliazation so the last 3 digits can change if his specialization changes – how we are going to tackle the evolution of NIHDI ? | ||
| + | ::::* Dispense : only uses the id that is currently valid | ||
| + | ::::* Catalog: same practioner will have several identifiers and the evolution of id in time, even indicating the validity period of the identifier | ||
| + | ::::* Within HL7 Belgium we have to show the progress we make – notion of history of NIHDI – so that issues are solved in the future in the same way | ||
| + | ::* Goal is to publish the profile and include an example | ||
| + | ::* José will update the profiling and will send out an email on the 2 ways of how this can be done | ||
| + | '''Next meeting: Aug 4 at 11AM''' | ||
| + | * July 21 meeting is cancelled due to public holiday | ||
| + | * Karlien to send out cancellation and insist on revision of profiling by everyone & providing feedback | ||
Latest revision as of 13:40, 7 July 2020
Attendees
- Tom Henkens
- José Costa Teixeira
- Elhassan Baazizi
- Marc Buckens
- Jens Penny
- Karlien Erauw
Excused
- Robin Bosman
Agenda
- medication dispense: move stage further
- NIHDI uniqueness issue
- remarks on updates on profiling
Meeting Minutes
- most recent updates on profiling (changes in medication dispense) are currently not available online as build is being done locally, should be available tomorrow
- question: actors - display is not part of identifier: has been clarified
- NIHDI identifier issue
- NIHDI presents a caregiver/professional or an organization/pharmacy, within professional/organization it is unique – what we need to do is adding 2 naming systems
- NIHDI for professional
- NIHDI for organisation
- Profile on medication dispense has 2 slices – performer-dispensingPerson and performer-dispensingOrganization
- at least one has to be there - this will be enforced (important also for traceability)
- Issue f.e. for bandagists as they don't have a NIHDI. Idea is that one performer is mandatory but a local identifier could be used
- Type of dispenser (f.e. intramuros pharmacy, extramuros pharmacy, physiotherapist, nurse, GP, doctor-specialist, ...)
- NIHDI professional will not specify the type of the professional (nurse, GP, specialists, …)
- Type of organization is vital information in Belgium f.e. regarding checking authorizations of dispenses
- Can this be looked up within our FHIR profiling if the lookup exists ;Look up can have an impact, do we want the dispense to fail ?
- Complexity should be solved at the origin, not at the client side
- Can we kick out GFD-pharmacy and use the eHealth numbering (metadata from eHealth)
- BePractioner should be common in Belgium
- BeMedicationDispense: will also be used by vending machine, hospitals, vaccination organization, pharmacy,…
- NIDHI of practioners can “evolve”: last 3 digits have speciliazation so the last 3 digits can change if his specialization changes – how we are going to tackle the evolution of NIHDI ?
- Dispense : only uses the id that is currently valid
- Catalog: same practioner will have several identifiers and the evolution of id in time, even indicating the validity period of the identifier
- Within HL7 Belgium we have to show the progress we make – notion of history of NIHDI – so that issues are solved in the future in the same way
- Goal is to publish the profile and include an example
- José will update the profiling and will send out an email on the 2 ways of how this can be done
Next meeting: Aug 4 at 11AM
- July 21 meeting is cancelled due to public holiday
- Karlien to send out cancellation and insist on revision of profiling by everyone & providing feedback
