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* Dr Alain Derom
 
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* Robin Bosman
 
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===== Minutes =====
 
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* architecture: include messages on eHealth Box... ? to be clarified
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* question on how to include messages on eHealth Box... ? to be clarified
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* updates
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* updates in the Lab report Guidance, see http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/guidance.html
 
::* how to refer to other resources: diagnostic report refers  
 
::* how to refer to other resources: diagnostic report refers  
 
::::* you can refer to a bundle or to a contained resource, or a logical reference
 
::::* you can refer to a bundle or to a contained resource, or a logical reference
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::::* same logic for the laboratory
 
::::* same logic for the laboratory
  
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other previous meeting:
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* how do we send all of this ?
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feedback of HL7 international on https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic1.xml.html
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::* all send as contained or as bundles
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::* what if we have a code in the element code and we need to express extra information like relative time, do we need to use an extension and is this the only option ? You can also use Components for that, you can qualify the central codes in an observation. HL7 International shall clarify this
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::::* Bundle example : http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Bundle-HematologyStudiesAsBundleCollection.htmll : every entry in the bundle has its identifier
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::::* glucose is not a good example for that
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::::* Contained example: http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/DiagnosticReport-DiagnosticReportHematologyStudiesEverythingContained.html
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::::* relativeTimeQualifier is now a component in the [http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/StructureDefinition-be-observation-laboratory.html lab result profile]
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::* can you validate this ?
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::::* you can validate online as ready-to-go: see [http://hl7.org/fhir/validator/ hl7.org/fhir/validator] that you can run from the command line including your example: java -jar validator_cliR.jar example.xml -ig https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/
  
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::* LIS systems will produce content (bundles, contained,...): will the receivers be able to handle all this? This should not be so difficult to handle
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* Anyone willing to work on examples ?
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::* what kind of example ? f.e. hemoculture, multiple specimens, basic hematology basic chemicstry report, basic without antibiogram and with antibiogram
  
  
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examples for creatinine clearance & microbiology : have been provided by Benny, thanks for that ; Robin has worked on it, unfortunately not yet published due to HL7 technical issue, they will be published as soon as technical possible
 
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* There are now more examples published, see them all on the bottom of the page:
 
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::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic0.xml.html
 
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::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic1.xml.html
 
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::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic2.xml.html
 
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::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsKetonen.xml.html
 
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::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsUrineScreening.xml.html
 
  
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* A possible solution can be: a laboratory report can be diagnostic report with FHIR instance and all will be there as contained resource. Let's discuss this next time
 
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* Robin will more work on the contained example as well as examples on logical reference
 
  
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* Action points for next meeting: work on additional examples - don't hesitate to reach out to us if you are blocked or if you hae a question
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* Action points for next meeting:
 
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::* anyone willing to work on examples
 
  
 
'''Next Meeting:''' Monday April 19 April  at 4PM, since April 5 is Easter Monday, as such next meeting is in 4 weeks
 
'''Next Meeting:''' Monday April 19 April  at 4PM, since April 5 is Easter Monday, as such next meeting is in 4 weeks

Latest revision as of 08:23, 19 April 2021

Attendees
  • Dr Alain Derom
  • Robin Bosman
  • Benny Verhamme
  • Frederik Lenaerts
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jean-Michel Polfiet
  • Joost Van Averbeke
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Kristof Jaubin
  • Peter Laridon
  • Thibault Mahieu
  • Theo Schumacher
  • Tom Fiers
Excused/Not present
  • Frank Vandewiele
  • Gaston Verelst
  • Hendrik Plaetinck
  • Jos Bellen
  • Olivier Lothaire
  • Paul Neyens
Agenda
  • Review updates on examples
  • Examples: volunteers ?
Minutes
  • how to refer to other resources: diagnostic report refers
  • you can refer to a bundle or to a contained resource, or a logical reference
  • see Guidance 3.13.& Minimal information concerning the subject: new information has been added concerning a FHIR logical reference i.e. we don't give a link where you can get the Patient, we don't give a path where the Patient might reside, we only give the patient's social scty number
  • same logic for the laboratory
  • how do we send all of this ?
  • all send as contained or as bundles
  • can you validate this ?
  • Anyone willing to work on examples ?
  • what kind of example ? f.e. hemoculture, multiple specimens, basic hematology basic chemicstry report, basic without antibiogram and with antibiogram



  • Action points for next meeting: work on additional examples - don't hesitate to reach out to us if you are blocked or if you hae a question

Next Meeting: Monday April 19 April at 4PM, since April 5 is Easter Monday, as such next meeting is in 4 weeks

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