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===== '''Attendees''' =====  
 
===== '''Attendees''' =====  
* Anne Nerenhausen
 
 
* Annemieke Vergauwe  
 
* Annemieke Vergauwe  
* Bruno Casneuf
 
 
* Dieter Sauvillers
 
* Dieter Sauvillers
 
* Elhassan Baazizi  
 
* Elhassan Baazizi  
 
* Jan Lenie  
 
* Jan Lenie  
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* Jean-Louis Maggetto
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* Jean-Michel Polfliet
 
* Jens Penny  
 
* Jens Penny  
 
* José Costa Teixeira  
 
* José Costa Teixeira  
 
* Karlien Erauw  
 
* Karlien Erauw  
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* Richard Francken
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* Robin Bosman
 
* Tom De Backer  
 
* Tom De Backer  
* Tom Henkens
 
  
===== '''Excused/Nor present''' =====
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===== '''Excused/Not present''' =====
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* Anne Nerenhausen
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* Bruno Casneuf
 
* Hanne Vuegen
 
* Hanne Vuegen
* Jean-Louis Maggetto
 
 
* Jeroen De Wilde
 
* Jeroen De Wilde
 
* Lars Vanreppelen
 
* Lars Vanreppelen
 
* Marc Buckens  
 
* Marc Buckens  
 
* Nils Devos
 
* Nils Devos
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* Tom Henkens
 
* Pablo Christiaens
 
* Pablo Christiaens
* Richard Francken
 
* Robin Bosman
 
 
* Will van Norel
 
* Will van Norel
  
 
===== '''Agenda''' =====
 
===== '''Agenda''' =====
* feedback & discussion on medication record
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* feedback on latest updates
  
 
===== '''Minutes''' =====
 
===== '''Minutes''' =====
 
* Magistral preparations: Jan did not have time to work on it
 
* Magistral preparations: Jan did not have time to work on it
* Important that everyone understands in the same way what a therapy is, also for pharmacist and patient
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* Interesting link when you work on implementation guides: https://github.com/hl7-be/empty-ig
* All this will have an impact on dispensation
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* Latest updates:
* José thinks of putting definitions together of a treatment line, snapshots etc
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::* Medication Scheme : see [https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179166-implementers/topic/Medication.20overview chat.fhir.org] with advice from Lloyd McKenzie
* Capture important points that we cannot forget in a google doc
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::* Definitions, see [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/branches/master/medicationrecord-definitions.html here] ; definition of medication scheme is missing
::* people can send their remarks in the chat and Karlien will collect them
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::::* treatment line vs treatment item: to be clarified, are they the same thing ?
::* for example:
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::::::* what is a medication line: a bundle of items on the same medication but with differences about the past and the future
::::* When do we need to create or update a treatment line
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::::::* does it need to represented by different resources ?
::::* Do we need "days left" in treatment ?
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::::* diagram that shows the links between these concepts needs to be added
* Received feedback on implementation guide
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::* requirements, see [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/branches/master/medicationrecord-requirements.html here]
::* start and end date, why not use period datatype : logical model does go into that detail yet
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::* treatment line should be next to summary, not under the summary, see [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/branches/master/toc.html here]
::::* FHIR datatypes are not referenced at logical datamodel level
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::* Scenario 1 - concurrent medications, see [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/branches/master/medicationrecord-scenario-1.html here]: whatever we decide on grouping medications, there will be always another way to group them
::* there are 2 types of identifier on treatment line
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::* Scenario 2 - medication protocols, see [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-medication/branches/master/medicationrecord-scenario-2.html here]
::::* treatment line has a unique identifier and has to have the medication parent an can have 1-many treatments (f.e. paracatemol can be there for a flu treatment and a headache treatment)
 
::::* it should be a reference, not a unique identifier - will be corrected
 
  
'''* Action items'''
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* José is sharing [https://build.fhir.org/medicationusage.html Medication usage]
::* setup timeline: by when publishing a minimum viable model for the medication scheme (in the upcoming weeks TBC) - José
 
::* prepare definitions of treatment line, snapshots etc - José
 
::* any questions or important points to take into account in the future: put them in the chat - all
 
  
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'''Action items for next meeting'''
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::* continue discussion on treatment lines
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::* please all: check all the definitions, requirements, scenarios that were presented today and provide us with your feedback
  
  
'''Next meeting April 13 at 11AM'''
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'''Next meeting April 27 at 11AM'''

Latest revision as of 08:59, 27 April 2021

Attendees
  • Annemieke Vergauwe
  • Dieter Sauvillers
  • Elhassan Baazizi
  • Jan Lenie
  • Jean-Louis Maggetto
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • Jens Penny
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Richard Francken
  • Robin Bosman
  • Tom De Backer
Excused/Not present
  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bruno Casneuf
  • Hanne Vuegen
  • Jeroen De Wilde
  • Lars Vanreppelen
  • Marc Buckens
  • Nils Devos
  • Tom Henkens
  • Pablo Christiaens
  • Will van Norel
Agenda
  • feedback on latest updates
Minutes
  • Medication Scheme : see chat.fhir.org with advice from Lloyd McKenzie
  • Definitions, see here ; definition of medication scheme is missing
  • treatment line vs treatment item: to be clarified, are they the same thing ?
  • what is a medication line: a bundle of items on the same medication but with differences about the past and the future
  • does it need to represented by different resources ?
  • diagram that shows the links between these concepts needs to be added
  • requirements, see here
  • treatment line should be next to summary, not under the summary, see here
  • Scenario 1 - concurrent medications, see here: whatever we decide on grouping medications, there will be always another way to group them
  • Scenario 2 - medication protocols, see here

Action items for next meeting

  • continue discussion on treatment lines
  • please all: check all the definitions, requirements, scenarios that were presented today and provide us with your feedback


Next meeting April 27 at 11AM