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===== '''Attendees''' =====  
 
===== '''Attendees''' =====  
 
* Bart Decuypere
 
* Bart Decuypere
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* Bart Rondou
 
 
* Hans De Keersmaeker   
 
* Hans De Keersmaeker   
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* Jan Lenie
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* Jens Penny
 
* José Costa Teixeira
 
* José Costa Teixeira
 
* Karlien Erauw  
 
* Karlien Erauw  
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* Lodewijk Sioen
 
 
* Pablo Christiaens
 
* Pablo Christiaens
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* Stephane Bouillon
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* Tom Henkens
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===== '''Excused/Not present''' =====
 
===== '''Excused/Not present''' =====
 
* Annemieke Vergauwe
 
* Annemieke Vergauwe
 
* Anne Nerenhausen
 
* Anne Nerenhausen
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* Bruno Casneuf 
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* Bart Rondou
 
* Dieter Sauvillers
 
* Dieter Sauvillers
 
* Hanne Vuegen
 
* Hanne Vuegen
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* Jan Lenie
 
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet  
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet  
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* Jens Penny
 
 
* Katrien Thorré
 
* Katrien Thorré
 
* Lars Vanreppelen
 
* Lars Vanreppelen
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* Lodewijk Sioen
 
* Richard Francken
 
* Richard Francken
 
* Marc Buckens
 
* Marc Buckens
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* Nils Devos
 
* Nils Devos
 
* Thomas Van Langendonck
 
* Thomas Van Langendonck
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* Stephane Bouillon
 
* Tom De Backer  
 
* Tom De Backer  
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* Tom Henkens
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* Walter Bollaert
 
* Walter Bollaert
 
* Will van Norel
 
* Will van Norel
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* Mapping from the current kmehr medication scheme into FHIR  
 
* Mapping from the current kmehr medication scheme into FHIR  
 
* Mapping of posology  
 
* Mapping of posology  
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* Update of investigation of value sets
  
 
===== '''Minutes''' =====
 
===== '''Minutes''' =====
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* VIDIS project : functional equivalent of the kmehr MS
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* no update on valuesets : José will ask for an update from RIZIV for this WG to provide feedback and reviewed
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::* some documentation on the kmehr MS is missing
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* a simplified scheme has to be put together
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::* cookbook's data elements have being analysed and have been mapped to FHIR resources
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::* MS will have medication lines, that can be grouped optionally by medication treatments (we don't want parent/hierarchy) and a (simple) link to the prescription
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::* different valuesets came up: route of administration, adm unit, periodicity
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* Do we want to move to Snomed CT asap or only for the FHIR MS
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::::* while migrating the goal is to clean up the valuesets
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::* f.e. dose forms, administration unit, route of administration, periodicity, lifecycle, temporality, and codes for medications
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::::* update of valuesets : no update from Jens
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::* including this in the IG is a good idea
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::* plan is to land with a final draft of the FHIR MS in the upcoming months
 
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::::* medication lines can be part of a treatment
 
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::::* one treatment can have multiple lines, is the treatment a parent or is it a group(er), can a line then have 2 parents (hierarchy doesn't seem a good idea)
 
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::::* this and logical model and profile are still being discussed and under development
 
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::* there will be a shift from treatment to prescription while currently the HCP starts with a prescription
 
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::::* this is happening in Swiss (treatment=plan there)
 
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::* need for FHIR profiling:
 
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::::* medication dispense
 
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::::* medication treatment & medication line incl links between them
 
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::::* medication prescription: will recip-e move to FHIR ?
 
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::::::* it would be ideal to have all in FHIR as otherwise you would have the posology in kmehr and valuesest in kmehr and in FHIR
 
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::::::* what are the interaction and dependencies b/w the prescription and the MS  
 
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::* We are looking to bring together IHE Pharmacy and discussion with Swiss, most probably beginning of July
 
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* The kmehr cookbook has been converted into a big kmehr logical model, see here: https://hl7-be.github.io/kmehrms/StructureDefinition-KMEHRMS.html
 
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::* assessment what is needed and not needed anymore for the VIDIS project (MS in FHIR)
 
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::::* currently there are 2 transactions : medication line and treatment suspension line
 
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::::* the treatment suspension line seems not needed anymore for VIDIS (MS in FHIR)
 
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::* valueset mapping: some statistics have been made
 
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::* where do we need unique identifiers: on medication line and on entire medication scheme
 
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::* where do we need authors: on medication line and on entire medication scheme
 
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::* a hospital, institution or pharmacy cannot be an author, should always be an individual ; the organisation could be added additionnally
 
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::* more feedback is needed
 
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::* catalog of used valuesets should be made (f.e. different versions of administration units are being used by reip-ce, SAMv2 ...): ideally as part of
 
  
 
* We have to take the VIDIS brochure from RIZIV/INAMI into account: https://www.riziv.be/SiteCollectionDocuments/brochure-medicatieschema.PDF
 
* We have to take the VIDIS brochure from RIZIV/INAMI into account: https://www.riziv.be/SiteCollectionDocuments/brochure-medicatieschema.PDF
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* Action items:
 
* Action items:
 
::* consolidate current IG, remove items that are not needed
 
::* consolidate current IG, remove items that are not needed
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::* work on valuesets
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::* put simplified scheme together
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::* ask RIZIV to work on valuesets
  
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'''Next meeting 9 May at 11AM'''
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'''Next meeting 16 May at 11AM'''

Latest revision as of 09:25, 25 April 2023

Attendees
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Hans De Keersmaeker
  • Jan Lenie
  • Jens Penny
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Pablo Christiaens
  • Tom Henkens
Excused/Not present
  • Annemieke Vergauwe
  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bart Rondou
  • Dieter Sauvillers
  • Hanne Vuegen
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • Katrien Thorré
  • Lars Vanreppelen
  • Lodewijk Sioen
  • Richard Francken
  • Marc Buckens
  • Nick Hermans
  • Nils Devos
  • Thomas Van Langendonck
  • Stephane Bouillon
  • Tom De Backer
  • Walter Bollaert
  • Will van Norel
Agenda
  • Mapping from the current kmehr medication scheme into FHIR
  • Mapping of posology
  • Update of investigation of value sets
Minutes
  • no update on valuesets : José will ask for an update from RIZIV for this WG to provide feedback and reviewed
  • a simplified scheme has to be put together
  • MS will have medication lines, that can be grouped optionally by medication treatments (we don't want parent/hierarchy) and a (simple) link to the prescription
  • Do we want to move to Snomed CT asap or only for the FHIR MS
  • f.e. dose forms, administration unit, route of administration, periodicity, lifecycle, temporality, and codes for medications
  • including this in the IG is a good idea
  • Action items:
  • consolidate current IG, remove items that are not needed
  • put simplified scheme together
  • ask RIZIV to work on valuesets

Next meeting 16 May at 11AM

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