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== Minutes == | == Minutes == | ||
| − | * Review of previous meeting minutes : postponed to next meeting - please send in your comments to Karlien | + | * '''Review of previous meeting minutes :''' postponed to next meeting - please send in your comments to Karlien |
| − | * Presentation of Farmaflux by Tom: see [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RrCcOewZ3xSIEuh6kvmFhR1Ijq69McA9 here] | + | * '''Presentation of Farmaflux by Tom:''' see [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RrCcOewZ3xSIEuh6kvmFhR1Ijq69McA9 here] |
| − | * Q&A on Toms presentation | + | * '''Q&A on Toms presentation''' |
| − | + | ::* Reporting on voluntary basis : consequence on integrity of record – patient record is per definition incomplete – privacy is OK | |
| − | + | ::* Data is kept for 12 months: determined by Belgian privacy commission, file has been submitted | |
| − | For clinical assessment a longer history can be of value- 12 months could be changed after consultation of privacycommission – 12 years : other purpose - value for doctors, not for pharmacists | + | ::::For clinical assessment a longer history can be of value- 12 months could be changed after consultation of privacycommission – 12 years : other purpose - value for doctors, not for pharmacists |
| − | + | ::::Local pharmacy record has to be kept for at least 10 years, destroyed in 30 years | |
| − | :CNK ID : valid, valid format | + | ::::Farmaflux is cleaning up after 12 months, archived out of database |
| − | ::Only medication is accepted (registration file – CNK ID tells if it is medication) | + | ::* Quality control: checks that are done in Farmaflux are: |
| − | ::Pharmacy never gives INN, translates this into product | + | ::::*CNK ID : valid, valid format |
| − | ::Could by replaced by GTIN in the future ? Or use a 2nd number ? Could be interesting discussion | + | ::::::Only medication is accepted (registration file – CNK ID tells if it is medication) |
| − | :ISNZ: valid, valid format | + | ::::::Pharmacy never gives INN, translates this into product |
| − | + | ::::::Could by replaced by GTIN in the future ? Or use a 2nd number ? Could be interesting discussion point for this WG | |
| + | ::::*ISNZ: valid, valid format | ||
| − | * Proposals on next action points: | + | ::* What are the medata: |
| − | + | ::::* key and value | |
| − | * Jan prepared Json file for model on medication dispense, would like to start translation, would like to check model with provided examples | + | ::::* not used a lot as for the moment |
| − | * Proposal to start putting things in the right place, keeping our model | + | ::::* new keys can be added quite easily in the future without having to change the model |
| − | * Looking at examples (FHIR and other) and check if we have them in our model | + | ::*A message can have multiple dispensations |
| − | * Jan prefers to start working with examples to see whether they are mapped on the model or if they are missing | + | :::* within each session multiple reports |
| − | + | ::::* patient ID will be the same and appear multiple times | |
| − | * Have a look at Jan’s examples | + | ::::* no central reconciliation is done therefore the patient ID comes back multiple times |
| − | * Jose will share a draft document with necessary fields to work on | + | ::::* no interlink between products if they affect each other’s posology |
| − | We already have a Google drive [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hVBJB79XIyS7NiDlZj2odZgXuCegZXdv HL7 BE Medication] | + | |
| − | * Goal is to have a logical model for medication dispense that can be published pretty soon | + | ::* A "data quality" / Reliability factor is available in the file, for now it always reports 50%. |
| − | + | ||
| + | * '''Proposals on next action points:''' should we work on GoogleDocs to work on attributes in between our next meeting in order to work on our information model ? Suggestions for the next step ? | ||
| + | ::* Jan prepared Json file for model on medication dispense, would like to start translation, would like to check model with provided examples | ||
| + | ::* Proposal to start putting things in the right place, keeping our model up to date, checking which data and metadata we need/want | ||
| + | ::* Looking at examples (FHIR and other) and check if we have them in our model | ||
| + | ::* Jan prefers to start working with examples to see whether they are mapped on the model or if they are missing | ||
| + | ::* Have a look at the Dutch ZIB's (bouwstenen): medicatieverstrekking building block; clinical & logistical side | ||
| + | |||
| + | * '''Agenda points for next call''' | ||
| + | ::*Have a look at Jan’s examples | ||
| + | ::* Jose will share a draft document with necessary fields to work on | ||
| + | ::::We already have a Google drive [https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hVBJB79XIyS7NiDlZj2odZgXuCegZXdv HL7 BE Medication] | ||
| + | ::::Karlien will make everyone editor & send the link | ||
| + | ::* Goal is to have a logical model for medication dispense (and a profile) that can be published pretty soon | ||
Latest revision as of 11:50, 25 April 2020
Attendees
- Jan Lenie
- Annemieke Vergauwe
- Will Van Norel
- Richard Francken
- Tom Henkens
- Jens Penny
- José Costa Teixeira
- Karlien Erauw
- Robin Bosman
Agenda
- Review previous meeting minutes
- Demo of Tom on Farmaflux
- Look at collected information
- Determine first action points
Minutes
- Review of previous meeting minutes : postponed to next meeting - please send in your comments to Karlien
- Presentation of Farmaflux by Tom: see here
- Q&A on Toms presentation
- Reporting on voluntary basis : consequence on integrity of record – patient record is per definition incomplete – privacy is OK
- Data is kept for 12 months: determined by Belgian privacy commission, file has been submitted
- For clinical assessment a longer history can be of value- 12 months could be changed after consultation of privacycommission – 12 years : other purpose - value for doctors, not for pharmacists
- Local pharmacy record has to be kept for at least 10 years, destroyed in 30 years
- Farmaflux is cleaning up after 12 months, archived out of database
- Quality control: checks that are done in Farmaflux are:
- CNK ID : valid, valid format
- Only medication is accepted (registration file – CNK ID tells if it is medication)
- Pharmacy never gives INN, translates this into product
- Could by replaced by GTIN in the future ? Or use a 2nd number ? Could be interesting discussion point for this WG
- ISNZ: valid, valid format
- What are the medata:
- key and value
- not used a lot as for the moment
- new keys can be added quite easily in the future without having to change the model
- A message can have multiple dispensations
- within each session multiple reports
- patient ID will be the same and appear multiple times
- no central reconciliation is done therefore the patient ID comes back multiple times
- no interlink between products if they affect each other’s posology
- A "data quality" / Reliability factor is available in the file, for now it always reports 50%.
- Proposals on next action points: should we work on GoogleDocs to work on attributes in between our next meeting in order to work on our information model ? Suggestions for the next step ?
- Jan prepared Json file for model on medication dispense, would like to start translation, would like to check model with provided examples
- Proposal to start putting things in the right place, keeping our model up to date, checking which data and metadata we need/want
- Looking at examples (FHIR and other) and check if we have them in our model
- Jan prefers to start working with examples to see whether they are mapped on the model or if they are missing
- Have a look at the Dutch ZIB's (bouwstenen): medicatieverstrekking building block; clinical & logistical side
- Agenda points for next call
- Have a look at Jan’s examples
- Jose will share a draft document with necessary fields to work on
- We already have a Google drive HL7 BE Medication
- Karlien will make everyone editor & send the link
- Goal is to have a logical model for medication dispense (and a profile) that can be published pretty soon
