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===== Attendees =====  
 
===== Attendees =====  
 
* Robin Bosman
 
* Robin Bosman
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* Dr Alain Derom
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* Benny Verhamme  
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* Benny Verhamme
 
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* Frank Vandewiele
 
 
* Frederik Lenaerts
 
* Frederik Lenaerts
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* Gaston Verelst, HDMP
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* Gaston Verelst
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker
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* Jean-Michel Polfiet
 
* Joost Van Averbeke  
 
* Joost Van Averbeke  
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* Jos Bellen
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* José Costa Teixeira  
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* José Costa Teixeira
 
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Kristof Jaubin
 
* Kristof Jaubin
 
* Olivier Lothaire
 
* Olivier Lothaire
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* Paul Neyens
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* Peter Laridon (arrived at 4.30PM)
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* Peter Laridon
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* Thibault Mahieu  
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* Theo Schumacher
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* Tom Fiers  
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* Thibault Mahieu
 
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* Tom Fiers
 
  
 
===== Excused/Not present =====  
 
===== Excused/Not present =====  
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* Dr Alain Derom
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* Frank Vandewiele
 
* Hendrik Plaetinck
 
* Hendrik Plaetinck
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* Jos Bellen
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* Paul Neyens
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* Theo Schumacher
  
 
===== Agenda =====
 
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===== Minutes =====
 
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===== Minutes =====
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* feedback of HL7 international on https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic1.xml.html
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* examples for creatinine clearance & microbiology : have been provided by Benny, thanks for that ; Robin has worked on it, unfortunately not yet published due to HL7 technical issue, they will be published as soon as technical possible
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::* what if we have a code in the element code and we need to express extra information like relative time, do we need to use an extension and is this the only option ? You can also use Components for that, you can qualify the central codes in an observation. HL7 International shall clarify this
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* Robin has been working on several examples:
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::::* glucose is not a good example for that
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::::* relativeTimeQualifier is now a component in the [http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/StructureDefinition-be-observation-laboratory.html lab result profile]
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::* LIS systems will produce content (bundles, contained,...): will the receivers be able to handle all this? This should not be so difficult to handle
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* Examples for creatinine clearance & microbiology : have been provided by Benny, thanks for that ; Robin has worked on it, unfortunately not yet published due to HL7 technical issue, they will be published as soon as technical possible
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* There are now more examples published, see them all on the bottom of the page:  
 
::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic0.xml.html
 
::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic0.xml.html
 
::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsDynamic1.xml.html
 
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::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsUrineScreening.xml.html
 
::* https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Observation-obsUrineScreening.xml.html
  
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* Robin shows first example of lab observation using LOINC code
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* A possible solution can be: a laboratory report can be diagnostic report with FHIR instance and all will be there as contained resource. Let's discuss this next time
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::* extension be-ext-relative-time to include a time concept for f.e. glucose test
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* Robin will more work on the contained example as well as examples on logical reference
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::* stimulation product and dosage that was given, should be provided in some cases
 
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* Example of observation on urine specimen
 
  
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* Structured [http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Bundle-AntibiogramAsBundleCollection.xml.html antibiogram]
 
  
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* Action points:
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* Action points for next meeting:
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::* Robin asks for examples to be converted in FHIR f.e. creatinine clearance with 2 specimens (blood + urine)
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::* come prepared with feedback on today's discussed topics
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::* Labo results: please provide feedback on antibiogram [http://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-laboratory-report/Bundle-AntibiogramAsBundleCollection.xml.html example]
 
  
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'''Next Meeting:''' Monday March 8 at 4PM
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'''Next Meeting:''' Monday March 22 at 4PM

Latest revision as of 12:27, 12 April 2021

Attendees
  • Robin Bosman
  • Benny Verhamme
  • Frederik Lenaerts
  • Gaston Verelst
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jean-Michel Polfiet
  • Joost Van Averbeke
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Kristof Jaubin
  • Olivier Lothaire
  • Peter Laridon (arrived at 4.30PM)
  • Thibault Mahieu
  • Tom Fiers
Excused/Not present
  • Dr Alain Derom
  • Frank Vandewiele
  • Hendrik Plaetinck
  • Jos Bellen
  • Paul Neyens
  • Theo Schumacher
Agenda
  • updated items since last meeting
  • examples
Minutes
  • what if we have a code in the element code and we need to express extra information like relative time, do we need to use an extension and is this the only option ? You can also use Components for that, you can qualify the central codes in an observation. HL7 International shall clarify this
  • glucose is not a good example for that
  • relativeTimeQualifier is now a component in the lab result profile
  • LIS systems will produce content (bundles, contained,...): will the receivers be able to handle all this? This should not be so difficult to handle


  • Examples for creatinine clearance & microbiology : have been provided by Benny, thanks for that ; Robin has worked on it, unfortunately not yet published due to HL7 technical issue, they will be published as soon as technical possible
  • There are now more examples published, see them all on the bottom of the page:
  • A possible solution can be: a laboratory report can be diagnostic report with FHIR instance and all will be there as contained resource. Let's discuss this next time
  • Robin will more work on the contained example as well as examples on logical reference


  • Action points for next meeting:
  • come prepared with feedback on today's discussed topics

Next Meeting: Monday March 22 at 4PM

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