Difference between revisions of "Minutes - Referral WG 2021-11-16"
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===== Attendees ===== | ===== Attendees ===== | ||
| − | * Dr Alain Derom | + | * Dr Alain Derom |
| − | * Bart Decuypere | + | * Bart Decuypere |
| − | * Benny Verhamme | + | * Benny Verhamme |
| + | * Frédéric Istace | ||
* Frederik Lenaerts | * Frederik Lenaerts | ||
* Hans De Keersmaecker | * Hans De Keersmaecker | ||
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* Kristof Jaubin | * Kristof Jaubin | ||
* Nick Hermans | * Nick Hermans | ||
| − | * | + | * Nico Vannieuwenhuyze |
| − | * | + | * Peter Laridon |
| − | * | + | * Robert Nicolas (Medispring) |
| − | * Tom | + | * Thibault Mahieu |
| + | * Tom Tollenaere | ||
* Stefan Waegemans | * Stefan Waegemans | ||
| − | * Toon Schiemsky | + | * Toon Schiemsky |
===== Excused/Not present ===== | ===== Excused/Not present ===== | ||
* Frederik De Kegel | * Frederik De Kegel | ||
* Mieke Buckinx | * Mieke Buckinx | ||
| + | * Olivier Lothaire | ||
* Paul Neyens | * Paul Neyens | ||
| − | * | + | * Richard Francken |
| − | * Tom | + | * Theo Schumacher |
| + | * Tom Fiers | ||
===== Agenda ===== | ===== Agenda ===== | ||
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: Today we will deal with the issues having status "To Be Validated by WG" | : Today we will deal with the issues having status "To Be Validated by WG" | ||
| + | * Every bundle needs a unique identifier - how will be deal with this at national level, do we want to standardise this ? | ||
| + | ::* combination of system and value has to be unique | ||
| + | ::* Medina will remove the lab prefix : lab riziv number + unique number for the lab (f.e. riziv request number) | ||
| + | ::* HL7 Belgium has to work on naming system : HL7 Belgium will set this up in the way "this is the approved url as agreed" - it will be the identifier of the bundle, not the unique ID | ||
| + | ::* please note: one request cannot have 2 bundles as outcome | ||
| + | |||
| + | * the Bundles have to be unique, any reference identifiers in the bundle do not have to be unique ? They only have to be unique within the same bundle | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Issue #26 "Multilevel titles on protocols" | ||
| + | ::* a lab protocol has titles and none or multiple subtitles and each level can have results | ||
| + | ::* need for agreement on way of encoding | ||
| + | ::::* proposal: using "hasMember" as this has been created to have hierarchy | ||
| + | * Issue #38 is almost the same issue "Subtitles and panels" | ||
| + | ::* nuance of narrative generation | ||
| + | ::* is there a need for a dummy narrative to a panel ? | ||
| + | :: conclusion: if you have a child you have to use "hasMember" | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Narrative: the receiving party needs to be able to rebuild the protocol | ||
| + | ::* Macsys wants to leave the narrative empty - is this against the HL7 FHIR standard mandatory guidance ? Macsys will create plain text in the narrative | ||
| + | ::* copy of the protocol could be sent as a blob, not in the narrative | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Issue 34 about coding system to include in the observation | ||
| + | ::* can we use multiple ones ? | ||
| + | ::* link to coding system : FHIR allows Loinc, Albert or lab codes | ||
| + | ::* should we not determine how we have to identify lab coding systems - will Medidoc, Medigest codes be identified ? | ||
| + | ::* is there a repository page of the used lab coding systems ? | ||
| + | |||
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| + | * Action items | ||
| + | ::* HL7 Belgium to make up naming system for identifier for bundles | ||
'''Next Meeting:''' Dec 30 at 4PM | '''Next Meeting:''' Dec 30 at 4PM | ||
Revision as of 16:06, 16 November 2021
Attendees
- Dr Alain Derom
- Bart Decuypere
- Benny Verhamme
- Frédéric Istace
- Frederik Lenaerts
- Hans De Keersmaecker
- Jean-Michel Polfiet
- Joost Van Averbeke
- Jos Bellen
- José Costa Teixeira
- Karlien Erauw
- Kristof Jaubin
- Nick Hermans
- Nico Vannieuwenhuyze
- Peter Laridon
- Robert Nicolas (Medispring)
- Thibault Mahieu
- Tom Tollenaere
- Stefan Waegemans
- Toon Schiemsky
Excused/Not present
- Frederik De Kegel
- Mieke Buckinx
- Olivier Lothaire
- Paul Neyens
- Richard Francken
- Theo Schumacher
- Tom Fiers
Agenda
- Final updates & feedback
Minutes
- Updates of the pilot phase of the Lab result project
- goal of the pilot: implementation proof documentation for the project
- 5 participants (2 GP softs + EPD soft + 2 LIS) + 2 biologists
- tracking of issues in github
- testcases will be used in the future for the end-to-end solution
- Today we will deal with the issues having status "To Be Validated by WG"
- Every bundle needs a unique identifier - how will be deal with this at national level, do we want to standardise this ?
- combination of system and value has to be unique
- Medina will remove the lab prefix : lab riziv number + unique number for the lab (f.e. riziv request number)
- HL7 Belgium has to work on naming system : HL7 Belgium will set this up in the way "this is the approved url as agreed" - it will be the identifier of the bundle, not the unique ID
- please note: one request cannot have 2 bundles as outcome
- the Bundles have to be unique, any reference identifiers in the bundle do not have to be unique ? They only have to be unique within the same bundle
- Issue #26 "Multilevel titles on protocols"
- a lab protocol has titles and none or multiple subtitles and each level can have results
- need for agreement on way of encoding
- proposal: using "hasMember" as this has been created to have hierarchy
- Issue #38 is almost the same issue "Subtitles and panels"
- nuance of narrative generation
- is there a need for a dummy narrative to a panel ?
- conclusion: if you have a child you have to use "hasMember"
- Narrative: the receiving party needs to be able to rebuild the protocol
- Macsys wants to leave the narrative empty - is this against the HL7 FHIR standard mandatory guidance ? Macsys will create plain text in the narrative
- copy of the protocol could be sent as a blob, not in the narrative
- Issue 34 about coding system to include in the observation
- can we use multiple ones ?
- link to coding system : FHIR allows Loinc, Albert or lab codes
- should we not determine how we have to identify lab coding systems - will Medidoc, Medigest codes be identified ?
- is there a repository page of the used lab coding systems ?
- Action items
- HL7 Belgium to make up naming system for identifier for bundles
Next Meeting: Dec 30 at 4PM
