Difference between revisions of "Minutes - Referral WG 2022-05-12"

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=== Agenda ===
 
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* Review of business rules and issues
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* Review of value sets
 
  
 
=== Meeting Minutes ===
 
=== Meeting Minutes ===
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* RIZIV has updated the logical model and has communicated this to the members of group last week. Hans has reviewed the document. We are going over all the questions and comment on them, [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jv22v42LYZ9urDHAjyqdREjay1us2X10/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true see comments and output of today's discussion here]
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* Business rules are referenced here: https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/65
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* 2.2.2 Value sets: disciplines by NRC, NRC will verify and validate what RIZIV will provide and will adapt if necessary. RIZIV will have to give them a series of values but must be validated first by the business. Who will fill in the Snomed CT numbers ? A new demand of the business is to add the discipline and specialty.  There will be a new version of the document after the discussion with the business
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* 2.2.3 BodySite: it is a transversal list (for vaccination it was a limited list bus muscles were included), a subset will be created and the current list is not the definite one, will be included in new version of the document. Can be free text as well, although free text is not preferable
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* BodyLaterality: will be an extension of the BodySite, see solution of vaccination
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::* see remarks from GP's in issues [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/40 40] and [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/41 41]: RIZIV will check
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* 2.2.4 Route: there will be a specific valueset, no Snomed CT valueset - still needs to be confirmed. The document has the FHIR valueset but is seems to lack specification. RIZIV has to check with NRC and then it will be a codeable concept. Belgian eHealth guidelines are to use terminologies
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* 2.2.5/6 ServiceRequestPeriod & ServiceRequestDayPeriod: only valid for nursing referrals.
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::* certain therapies should be applied several times a day and in specific conditions
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::* occurence field can already have this using [http://hl7.org/fhir/R4/datatypes.html#Timing Timing] so this will be used
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* All the open items are present in github
  
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* Resolution of [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues github issues]:
 
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/39 Issue #39 - body laterality free text]
 
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::* free text is not recommended
 
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::* where can it be found in the Business Rules document ? it is added in the new version of the document but still requires validation by the NRC and the WG business rules ; work is also still ongoing with careproviders in which requests body laterality is useful. To be determined later.
 
  
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/pull/18 Issue 18 - service requested will be own valueset]
 
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::* all business rules are listed, will be presented by RIZIV to the business WG, feedback will come soon
 
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::* remains open
 
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/3 Issue 3 - ExecutionPeriod]
 
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::* there are slides about the meaning of the different execution periods on which there was a question by José
 
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::* [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mv7V-FPrb3BdgYp3CN-iaT1EpCWQXkZE/view?usp=sharing See here: timeline of a prescription (RIZIV slide)]
 
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::::* dates can be anti-dated
 
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::::* a prescription can f.e. be started 5 days in the past = validation start date
 
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::::* validation end date = last day that the prescription has to be started
 
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::::* both mark the "validation period", [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U36JN7rRghHsTXWtu3Ve7S1uYLMGDXvo/view?usp=sharing see here (RIZIV slide)]
 
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::::* recorded date = fixed date
 
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::::* treatment end date: can be overruled by the prescriber - ends the "treatment period"
 
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::::* the validation period and treatment period are not referenced in the business rules document
 
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::* issue can be closed, will have to be dealt with later upon profiling, given input is sufficient
 
  
 
''' Agenda next meeting'''
 
''' Agenda next meeting'''
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* review new version of the business rules
  
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'''Next meeting : May 12 at 4PM'''
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'''Next meeting : June 9 at 4PM'''

Latest revision as of 15:21, 12 May 2022

Attendees

  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Benjamien Schmitt
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Maarten Cobbaert
  • Richard Francken

Excused

  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Marleen Van Eygen
  • Tim Weltens

Agenda

  • Review of business rules and issues

Meeting Minutes

  • Business rules are referenced here: https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/65
  • 2.2.2 Value sets: disciplines by NRC, NRC will verify and validate what RIZIV will provide and will adapt if necessary. RIZIV will have to give them a series of values but must be validated first by the business. Who will fill in the Snomed CT numbers ? A new demand of the business is to add the discipline and specialty. There will be a new version of the document after the discussion with the business
  • 2.2.3 BodySite: it is a transversal list (for vaccination it was a limited list bus muscles were included), a subset will be created and the current list is not the definite one, will be included in new version of the document. Can be free text as well, although free text is not preferable
  • BodyLaterality: will be an extension of the BodySite, see solution of vaccination
  • see remarks from GP's in issues 40 and 41: RIZIV will check
  • 2.2.4 Route: there will be a specific valueset, no Snomed CT valueset - still needs to be confirmed. The document has the FHIR valueset but is seems to lack specification. RIZIV has to check with NRC and then it will be a codeable concept. Belgian eHealth guidelines are to use terminologies
  • 2.2.5/6 ServiceRequestPeriod & ServiceRequestDayPeriod: only valid for nursing referrals.
  • certain therapies should be applied several times a day and in specific conditions
  • occurence field can already have this using Timing so this will be used
  • All the open items are present in github


Agenda next meeting

  • review new version of the business rules

Next meeting : June 9 at 4PM

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