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::* could it work with a practioner role ? we need multiple performer types as sometimes the request can be performed by different types of performers to fulfill one service request (f.e. diabetes education by nurse & physiotherapist) | ::* could it work with a practioner role ? we need multiple performer types as sometimes the request can be performed by different types of performers to fulfill one service request (f.e. diabetes education by nurse & physiotherapist) | ||
::* option is to force the prescriber to choose the type of the performer | ::* option is to force the prescriber to choose the type of the performer | ||
| + | ::::* the prescribers (HCP) need to be consulted to proceed in this way | ||
| + | ::::* to check if this needs a change in the logical model | ||
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| + | * looking into the new issues | ||
| + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/251 field based on performer task] | ||
| + | ::* a performer task must be linked to a prescription via basedOn | ||
| + | ::* field basedOn is not mustSupport, needs indeed to be changed to mustSupport | ||
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| + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/253 field basedOn on referral task] | ||
| + | ::* needs indeed to be changed to mustSupport | ||
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| + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/254 id for ressource practitionerRole and practitionner] | ||
| + | ::* INAMI reasoning: there is no way/a lack in Belgium to identify a HCP so the proposed way is the only way to identify the HCP that is meaningful | ||
| + | ::* does a HCP that performs a referral not always have a INAMI number? it indeed exists that a nurse does not have an INAMI number, f.e. a nurse that works in a hospital; an example needs to be provided | ||
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| + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/255 Consultation of a list of BeReferralPrescriptions - also with nihii number] | ||
| + | ::* When consulting prescriptions, it is important to be able to search by nihii number and not just by niss. This is important for both the performer and the requester | ||
| + | ::* the INAMI number is not saved, you can consult it through Cobhra it it is there | ||
| + | ::::* a HCP can perform care tasks using the INAMI number of a hospitaln (often foreigners) | ||
| + | ::::* a visa is the right to practice | ||
| + | ::::* students receive a temporary INAMI number, after their specialisation it can change | ||
| − | * | + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/256 contained ressource & search] |
| − | ::* | + | ::* the "contained resource" concept will not used in the UHMEP project |
| − | ::* | + | ::::* it is stated that searches in contained resources are feasible |
| + | ::::* in a contained resource you can put your own reference | ||
| − | + | * issue 242 is still open outside of the June release but important | |
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| − | + | * as information see description of [[file:///C:/Users/ERAUWKarlien(KERA)/Downloads/ReferralPrescription.Use.Cases.Nursing.V0.3.pdf|nursing use cases here]] | |
::* looking into "1.9 Education and self-care for diabetes patients without a care path", [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/referral/branches/issue-241/ServiceRequest-ucgh241p19-1.html see example here] | ::* looking into "1.9 Education and self-care for diabetes patients without a care path", [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/referral/branches/issue-241/ServiceRequest-ucgh241p19-1.html see example here] | ||
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=== Agenda next meeting === | === Agenda next meeting === | ||
| − | * continue resolution of issues | + | * continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases |
'''Next meeting: next week Friday 16 June at 9AM ''' | '''Next meeting: next week Friday 16 June at 9AM ''' | ||
Revision as of 07:59, 2 June 2023
Attendees
- Anne Nerenhausen
- Bart Decuypere
- Bart Reekmans
- Cyprien Janssens
- Emily Sevrin
- Hans De Keersmaecker
- Jean-Michel Polfliet
- Julien Beard
- Karlien Erauw
- Lionel Cremer
- Maarten Cobbaert
- Philippe Baise
- Philippe Lejoly
- Robin Merckx
Excused
- Alexis Van Zeveren
- Anthony Maton
- Ben Goosse
- Christophe Behaegel
- Dorsan de Fabricheckers
- Geert Vandenhole
- Jacques Yakoub
- Jean-Francois Coquelet
- José Costa Teixeira
- Katleen Smedts
- Katrien Dickx
- Katrien Thorré
- Marleen Van Eygen
- Maxime Daive
- Nathan Peeters
- Laurent Lamouline
- Pablo Christiaens
- Pieter Devolder
- Richard Francken
Agenda
- continue resolution of issues (214, 250)
Meeting Minutes
- Continue resolution of issues
- issue 214 namespace for identifier: proposal to use header
- review has been finalised and WG agrees with this solution so issue can be closed
- practioner role is in a contained resource and cannot be searched
- several stakeholders prefer option 1 instead of an extension
- Julien thinks that performerType is the correct place but the cardinality at int'l level is 0 to 1 and we need O to * not correct so we would need an extension and this is not narrowing down
- could it work with a practioner role ? we need multiple performer types as sometimes the request can be performed by different types of performers to fulfill one service request (f.e. diabetes education by nurse & physiotherapist)
- option is to force the prescriber to choose the type of the performer
- the prescribers (HCP) need to be consulted to proceed in this way
- to check if this needs a change in the logical model
- looking into the new issues
- field based on performer task
- a performer task must be linked to a prescription via basedOn
- field basedOn is not mustSupport, needs indeed to be changed to mustSupport
- needs indeed to be changed to mustSupport
- INAMI reasoning: there is no way/a lack in Belgium to identify a HCP so the proposed way is the only way to identify the HCP that is meaningful
- does a HCP that performs a referral not always have a INAMI number? it indeed exists that a nurse does not have an INAMI number, f.e. a nurse that works in a hospital; an example needs to be provided
- When consulting prescriptions, it is important to be able to search by nihii number and not just by niss. This is important for both the performer and the requester
- the INAMI number is not saved, you can consult it through Cobhra it it is there
- a HCP can perform care tasks using the INAMI number of a hospitaln (often foreigners)
- a visa is the right to practice
- students receive a temporary INAMI number, after their specialisation it can change
- the "contained resource" concept will not used in the UHMEP project
- it is stated that searches in contained resources are feasible
- in a contained resource you can put your own reference
- issue 242 is still open outside of the June release but important
- as information see description of nursing use cases here
- looking into "1.9 Education and self-care for diabetes patients without a care path", see example here
Agenda next meeting
- continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases
Next meeting: next week Friday 16 June at 9AM
