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=== Attendees ===
 
=== Attendees ===
 
* Anne Nerenhausen
 
* Anne Nerenhausen
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* Alexis Van Zeveren
 
* Bart Decuypere  
 
* Bart Decuypere  
 
* Félix De Tavernier
 
* Félix De Tavernier
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* Isabelle Pollet
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* Hanne Vuegen
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* Hans De Keersmaeker
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet
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* Jens Penny
 
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* José Costa Teixeira
 
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Karlien Erauw
 
* Pablo Christiaens
 
* Pablo Christiaens
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* Veerle Michiels
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* Sam Jocqué
  
 
=== Excused ===
 
=== Excused ===
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* Alexis Van Zeveren
 
 
* Brecht Van Vooren
 
* Brecht Van Vooren
 
* Filoretta Velica  
 
* Filoretta Velica  
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* Hanne Vuegen
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* Isabelle Pollet
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* Hans De Keersmaeker
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* Jens Penny
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* José Costa Teixeira
 
* Nick Hermans
 
* Nick Hermans
 
* Philippe Baise
 
* Philippe Baise
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* Sam Jocqué
 
 
* Tom De Backer
 
* Tom De Backer
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* Veerle Michiels
 
* Walter Bollaert  
 
* Walter Bollaert  
  
 
=== Agenda ===
 
=== Agenda ===
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* Review business rules document as the first step towards a Belgian IG for patient will
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* Review business rules document & resolve issue/questions
  
 
=== Minutes ===
 
=== Minutes ===
 
* A new version of the business rules document has been distributed to the WG members last Monday [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QGEKMd4OkXJRIr-EC2qeaqg84Bw5G7gj/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true in NL] and [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Avg27yw7gJB0KqfOhqh5vLsj2187Y8e-/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true French]:
 
* A new version of the business rules document has been distributed to the WG members last Monday [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QGEKMd4OkXJRIr-EC2qeaqg84Bw5G7gj/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true in NL] and [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Avg27yw7gJB0KqfOhqh5vLsj2187Y8e-/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true French]:
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::* see also in [https://github.com/hl7-be/patientwill/issues/12 issue 12]
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::* we go briefly over the document
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::* please have a look at the document and raise your questions or remarks by next meeting
  
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* The work on the implementation guide has started
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::* [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/patientwill/branches/issue-1/ issue 1 refers to the work on the logical model]
  
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* We deal with the questions raised in [https://github.com/hl7-be/patientwill/issues issues, see here]
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::* issue 11: consent.scope relation
  
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-- old minutes
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::* other remark: will FHIR R4 or R5 will be used ?
 
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::::* significant decision to be made
 
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::::* a new WG will be set-up after the holidays on R4/R5 for all the projects by eHealth platform/HL7 Belgium
 
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::::* [https://github.com/ehealthplatformstandards/KmehrFhirTransitionVersioning discussion exists on github with 4 projects] for which the [https://github.com/ehealthplatformstandards/BelgianProfileVersioningStrategy versioning is a subproject]
 
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::::::* please note that R4b is not an official version, it doesn't work and is not supported
 
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::* question: WillCategory is not mandatory, it might become Must Support
 
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::::* based on the category specific business rules will be defined
 
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::::* it might be necessary to become mandatory as otherwise it will not be sent
 
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::* valuesets: will they be custom ones or Snomed CT ones ?
 
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::::* a process is started to have them in Snomed CT, it will be decided by the NRC terminology centre ; currently the ones mentioned are the kmehr ones. Not sure whether the kmehr ones will be intermediate ones before the Snomed ones are available. Still to be determined whether the Snomed ones will be available on time
 
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::::* NRC will maintain the codes
 
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::::* kmehr value sets will have to be mapped into FHIR value sets and this mapping will have to be managed (version, publication): who will do this ?
 
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::::::* this can be added to the strategic [https://github.com/ehealthplatformstandards/KmehrToFHIR subproject KmehrToFHIR]
 
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* General question: some patient will statements are registered at commune level by the citizen (f.e. euthanisa): this is out of scope of this project
 
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::* it is the responsability of the citizen to make his GP aware and then it is up to code it in the EHR record
 
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* The FHIR IG branch was previously named to consent, it is now [https://github.com/hl7-be/patientwill/ changed into patient will] to avoid confusions
 
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::* [https://github.com/hl7-be/patientwill/issues/2 issue 2] can be closed
 
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::* first [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/patientwill/branches/issue-1/ draft of logical model] has been created : please have a look and provide your remarks
 
  
 
* Next actions:
 
* Next actions:
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::* come prepared with first remarks on business rules document and first draft of logical model by 24 Aug (by all)
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::* come prepared with remarks on the updated business rules document and first draft of logical model by 7 Sep
 
::* once the Royal Decree and other relevant documents (brochure) are available, they will be distributed to the WG members
 
::* once the Royal Decree and other relevant documents (brochure) are available, they will be distributed to the WG members
  
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'''Next Patient Dossier WG meeting: 7 Sep at 9AM TBC'''
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'''Next Patient Dossier/Patient Will WG meeting: 7 Sep at 9AM TBC'''

Revision as of 07:20, 24 August 2023

Attendees

  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Alexis Van Zeveren
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Félix De Tavernier
  • Hanne Vuegen
  • Hans De Keersmaeker
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Pablo Christiaens
  • Sam Jocqué

Excused

  • Brecht Van Vooren
  • Filoretta Velica
  • Isabelle Pollet
  • Jens Penny
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Nick Hermans
  • Philippe Baise
  • Tom De Backer
  • Veerle Michiels
  • Walter Bollaert

Agenda

  • Review business rules document & resolve issue/questions

Minutes

  • A new version of the business rules document has been distributed to the WG members last Monday in NL and French:
  • see also in issue 12
  • we go briefly over the document
  • please have a look at the document and raise your questions or remarks by next meeting
  • The work on the implementation guide has started
  • issue 11: consent.scope relation


  • Next actions:
  • come prepared with remarks on the updated business rules document and first draft of logical model by 7 Sep
  • once the Royal Decree and other relevant documents (brochure) are available, they will be distributed to the WG members

Next Patient Dossier/Patient Will WG meeting: 7 Sep at 9AM TBC

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