Difference between revisions of "Minutes - Referral WG 2021-11-16"

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===== Attendees =====  
 
===== Attendees =====  
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* Dr Alain Derom
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* Dr Alain Derom  
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* Bart Decuypere
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* Bart Decuypere  
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* Benny Verhamme
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* Benny Verhamme  
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* Frédéric Istace
 
* Frederik Lenaerts  
 
* Frederik Lenaerts  
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker  
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker  
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* Kristof Jaubin   
 
* Kristof Jaubin   
 
* Nick Hermans  
 
* Nick Hermans  
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* Olivier Lothaire
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* Nico Vannieuwenhuyze
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* Richard Francken
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* Peter Laridon
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* Theo Schumacher
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* Robert Nicolas (Medispring)
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* Tom Fiers
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* Thibault Mahieu
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* Tom Tollenaere
 
* Stefan Waegemans  
 
* Stefan Waegemans  
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* Toon Schiemsky
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* Toon Schiemsky  
  
 
===== Excused/Not present =====  
 
===== Excused/Not present =====  
 
* Frederik De Kegel
 
* Frederik De Kegel
 
* Mieke Buckinx
 
* Mieke Buckinx
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* Olivier Lothaire
 
* Paul Neyens
 
* Paul Neyens
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* Peter Laridon
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* Richard Francken
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* Tom Tollenaere
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* Theo Schumacher
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* Tom Fiers
  
 
===== Agenda =====
 
===== Agenda =====
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: Today we will deal with the issues having status "To Be Validated by WG"
 
: Today we will deal with the issues having status "To Be Validated by WG"
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* Every bundle needs a unique identifier - how will be deal with this at national level, do we want to standardise this ?
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::* combination of system and value has to be unique
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::* Medina will remove the lab prefix : lab riziv number + unique number for the lab (f.e. riziv request number)
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::* HL7 Belgium has to work on naming system : HL7 Belgium will set this up in the way "this is the approved url as agreed" - it will be the identifier of the bundle, not the unique ID
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::* please note: one request cannot have 2 bundles as outcome
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* the Bundles have to be unique, any reference identifiers in the bundle do not have to be unique ? They only have to be unique within the same bundle
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* Issue #26 "Multilevel titles on protocols"
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::* a lab protocol has titles and none or multiple subtitles and each level can have results
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::* need for agreement on way of encoding
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::::* proposal: using "hasMember" as this has been created to have hierarchy
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* Issue #38 is almost the same issue "Subtitles and panels"
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::* nuance of narrative generation
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::* is there a need for a dummy narrative to a panel ?
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:: conclusion: if you have a child you have to use "hasMember"
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* Narrative: the receiving party needs to be able to rebuild the protocol
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::* Macsys wants to leave the narrative empty - is this against the HL7 FHIR standard mandatory guidance ? Macsys will create plain text in the narrative
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::* copy of the protocol could be sent as a blob, not in the narrative
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* Issue 34 about coding system to include in the observation
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::* can we use multiple ones ?
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::* link to coding system : FHIR allows Loinc, Albert or lab codes
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::* should we not determine how we have to identify lab coding systems - will Medidoc, Medigest codes be identified ?
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::* is there a repository page of the used lab coding systems ?
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* Action items
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::* HL7 Belgium to make up naming system for identifier for bundles
  
 
'''Next Meeting:''' Dec 30 at 4PM
 
'''Next Meeting:''' Dec 30 at 4PM

Revision as of 16:06, 16 November 2021

Attendees
  • Dr Alain Derom
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Benny Verhamme
  • Frédéric Istace
  • Frederik Lenaerts
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jean-Michel Polfiet
  • Joost Van Averbeke
  • Jos Bellen
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Kristof Jaubin
  • Nick Hermans
  • Nico Vannieuwenhuyze
  • Peter Laridon
  • Robert Nicolas (Medispring)
  • Thibault Mahieu
  • Tom Tollenaere
  • Stefan Waegemans
  • Toon Schiemsky
Excused/Not present
  • Frederik De Kegel
  • Mieke Buckinx
  • Olivier Lothaire
  • Paul Neyens
  • Richard Francken
  • Theo Schumacher
  • Tom Fiers
Agenda
  • Final updates & feedback
Minutes
  • Updates of the pilot phase of the Lab result project
  • goal of the pilot: implementation proof documentation for the project
  • 5 participants (2 GP softs + EPD soft + 2 LIS) + 2 biologists
  • tracking of issues in github
  • testcases will be used in the future for the end-to-end solution
Today we will deal with the issues having status "To Be Validated by WG"
  • Every bundle needs a unique identifier - how will be deal with this at national level, do we want to standardise this ?
  • combination of system and value has to be unique
  • Medina will remove the lab prefix : lab riziv number + unique number for the lab (f.e. riziv request number)
  • HL7 Belgium has to work on naming system : HL7 Belgium will set this up in the way "this is the approved url as agreed" - it will be the identifier of the bundle, not the unique ID
  • please note: one request cannot have 2 bundles as outcome
  • the Bundles have to be unique, any reference identifiers in the bundle do not have to be unique ? They only have to be unique within the same bundle
  • Issue #26 "Multilevel titles on protocols"
  • a lab protocol has titles and none or multiple subtitles and each level can have results
  • need for agreement on way of encoding
  • proposal: using "hasMember" as this has been created to have hierarchy
  • Issue #38 is almost the same issue "Subtitles and panels"
  • nuance of narrative generation
  • is there a need for a dummy narrative to a panel ?
conclusion: if you have a child you have to use "hasMember"
  • Narrative: the receiving party needs to be able to rebuild the protocol
  • Macsys wants to leave the narrative empty - is this against the HL7 FHIR standard mandatory guidance ? Macsys will create plain text in the narrative
  • copy of the protocol could be sent as a blob, not in the narrative
  • Issue 34 about coding system to include in the observation
  • can we use multiple ones ?
  • link to coding system : FHIR allows Loinc, Albert or lab codes
  • should we not determine how we have to identify lab coding systems - will Medidoc, Medigest codes be identified ?
  • is there a repository page of the used lab coding systems ?


  • Action items
  • HL7 Belgium to make up naming system for identifier for bundles

Next Meeting: Dec 30 at 4PM

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