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* Benjamien Schmitt | * Benjamien Schmitt | ||
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=== Meeting Minutes === | === Meeting Minutes === | ||
| − | * Review of feedback from stakeholders (GP, home nurses) on presented RIZIV mapping | + | * Review of feedback from stakeholders (GP, home nurses) on [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_DxgTcu_jazlyO7Lovs8VD4PAGPKrWsz/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true presented RIZIV mapping on nursing referrals] |
=== Meeting Minutes === | === Meeting Minutes === | ||
* We have received feedback - thank you all for this-, some of them have been [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues input in github, see list here] | * We have received feedback - thank you all for this-, some of them have been [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues input in github, see list here] | ||
* Issue 37 received from GP's : there is a long list, maybe better to work with types & subtypes | * Issue 37 received from GP's : there is a long list, maybe better to work with types & subtypes | ||
| − | ::* a new working group will be established that will look into the GUI/UI design (user friendliness) and workflow that will include the GP's | + | ::* a new working group will be established by RIZIV that will look into the GUI/UI design (user friendliness) and workflow that will include the GP's |
| − | ::* | + | ::* to be investigated if subtypes have to be established at GUI level or at FHIR level & to check with other referrals as there has to be consistency |
| + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/38 Issue 38]: administration ; "Er is een opsplitsing bij ‘toediening geneesmiddel’, is dit noodzakelijk als de route & medicatie zelf toch al meegegeven wordt?" | ||
| + | * [https://github.com/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/issues/39 Issue 39]: "Bij body laterality waren enkele ? aanwezig => hier werd geopperd om bij veel mogelijkheden dit als tekst te mogen meegeven omdat dit makkelijker is de specifiëren" | ||
* Feedback by Ann Hugye (home nursing): | * Feedback by Ann Hugye (home nursing): | ||
| + | ::* 1. Toedieningsweg - mbt vertaling: | ||
| + | :::: a. FR: via un cathéter intraveineux préalablement installé: | ||
| + | :::: b. Vertaling NL: via een eerder geplaatste intraveneuze katheter | ||
| + | ::* 2. Toediening geneesmiddel (zalf) op de huid | ||
| + | :::: a. Zeker zorgen dat beide gevallen mogelijk zijn: | ||
| + | :::::: i. zona, eczema, psoriasis, wratten, dermatomytoses (nomenclatuur) | ||
| + | :::::: ii. andere (vb voltaren zalf = toedienen medicatie maar buiten nomenclatuur) | ||
| + | ::* 3. Bij compressietherapie: kan je dit ook gebruiken voor lymfedrainage / brandwonden? | ||
| + | ::* 4. Andere - mbt vertaling: | ||
| + | :::: a. FR: collyre après 30 jours de chirurgie | ||
| + | :::: b. NL: oogdruppels na periode van 30 dagen heelkunde > andere formulering: niet-post-operatieve oogdruppel | ||
| + | ::* 5. Nog andere zorgen die we soms door de arts gevraagd krijgen: | ||
| + | :::: opstart hygiënische zorgen (soms voorschrift nodig vb indien bij kind) | ||
| + | :::: opstart hygiënische zorgen - BIJLAGE 2 (soms bij dementie > met medisch getuigschrift voor een persoon die gedesoriënteerd is in tijd en ruimte) | ||
| + | :::: vraag voor mini mental (MMSE) | ||
| + | :::: vraag voor kloktest | ||
| + | * There will have to be an "other" available for care that is not linked to any nomenclatuur ; this condition will hopefully avoid that the "other" is too often used | ||
| + | * Some of the HL7 Belgium FHIR work will depend on the outcome of the UX/workflow group | ||
| − | + | ''' Action items''' | |
| + | ::* review lab order & medical imaging referrals to check if they are consistent with the way of working established for nursing referrals - by HL7 Belgium | ||
| + | ::* propose resolutions for issues - by HL7 Belgium | ||
| + | ::* rework mapping/XLS following the received feedback - by RIZIV | ||
| + | ::* engage EPD/hospitals in this development work | ||
| + | ::* prepare mapping [https://build.fhir.org/ig/hl7-be/hl7-be-fhir-referral-prescription/StructureDefinition-be-referralprescription-nursing.html logical model] to FHIR model taking into account the [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CBciOyKipn5KC9aMWcgY99pf0KtzIIoT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105469359652835948544&rtpof=true&sd=true business rules] - be aware : work is still in progress | ||
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Latest revision as of 15:32, 1 March 2022
Attendees
- Anne Nerenhausen
- Bart Decuypere
- Benjamien Schmitt
- Hans De Keersmaecker
- Jean-Michel Polfliet
- Karen Anthonissen
- Karlien Erauw
- Maarten Cobbaert
- Marleen Van Eygen
- Tim Weltens
Excused
- Ann Huyghe
- José Costa Teixeira
- Marie Pierard
Meeting Minutes
- Review of feedback from stakeholders (GP, home nurses) on presented RIZIV mapping on nursing referrals
Meeting Minutes
- We have received feedback - thank you all for this-, some of them have been input in github, see list here
- Issue 37 received from GP's : there is a long list, maybe better to work with types & subtypes
- a new working group will be established by RIZIV that will look into the GUI/UI design (user friendliness) and workflow that will include the GP's
- to be investigated if subtypes have to be established at GUI level or at FHIR level & to check with other referrals as there has to be consistency
- Issue 38: administration ; "Er is een opsplitsing bij ‘toediening geneesmiddel’, is dit noodzakelijk als de route & medicatie zelf toch al meegegeven wordt?"
- Issue 39: "Bij body laterality waren enkele ? aanwezig => hier werd geopperd om bij veel mogelijkheden dit als tekst te mogen meegeven omdat dit makkelijker is de specifiëren"
- Feedback by Ann Hugye (home nursing):
- 1. Toedieningsweg - mbt vertaling:
- a. FR: via un cathéter intraveineux préalablement installé:
- b. Vertaling NL: via een eerder geplaatste intraveneuze katheter
- 2. Toediening geneesmiddel (zalf) op de huid
- a. Zeker zorgen dat beide gevallen mogelijk zijn:
- i. zona, eczema, psoriasis, wratten, dermatomytoses (nomenclatuur)
- ii. andere (vb voltaren zalf = toedienen medicatie maar buiten nomenclatuur)
- a. Zeker zorgen dat beide gevallen mogelijk zijn:
- 3. Bij compressietherapie: kan je dit ook gebruiken voor lymfedrainage / brandwonden?
- 4. Andere - mbt vertaling:
- a. FR: collyre après 30 jours de chirurgie
- b. NL: oogdruppels na periode van 30 dagen heelkunde > andere formulering: niet-post-operatieve oogdruppel
- 5. Nog andere zorgen die we soms door de arts gevraagd krijgen:
- opstart hygiënische zorgen (soms voorschrift nodig vb indien bij kind)
- opstart hygiënische zorgen - BIJLAGE 2 (soms bij dementie > met medisch getuigschrift voor een persoon die gedesoriënteerd is in tijd en ruimte)
- vraag voor mini mental (MMSE)
- vraag voor kloktest
- There will have to be an "other" available for care that is not linked to any nomenclatuur ; this condition will hopefully avoid that the "other" is too often used
- Some of the HL7 Belgium FHIR work will depend on the outcome of the UX/workflow group
Action items
- review lab order & medical imaging referrals to check if they are consistent with the way of working established for nursing referrals - by HL7 Belgium
- propose resolutions for issues - by HL7 Belgium
- rework mapping/XLS following the received feedback - by RIZIV
- engage EPD/hospitals in this development work
- prepare mapping logical model to FHIR model taking into account the business rules - be aware : work is still in progress
Next meeting : March 17 4PM - no meeting on March 3 due to school holiday week
