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=== Attendees ===
 
=== Attendees ===
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* Anne Nerenhausen
 
 
* Bart Decuypere
 
* Bart Decuypere
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* Bart Reekmans
 
 
* Benjamien Schmitt  
 
* Benjamien Schmitt  
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* Christophe Behaegel
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* Dorsan De Fabribeckers De Cortils Et Grâce, smals
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker  
 
* Hans De Keersmaecker  
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* Jean-Michel Polfliet
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* Jacques Yaboub, smals
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* José Costa Teixeira
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* Jean-Francois Coquelet
 
* Karlien Erauw  
 
* Karlien Erauw  
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* Katleen Smedts
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* Laurent Lamouline, smals
 
* Maarten Cobbaert  
 
* Maarten Cobbaert  
 
* Marleen Van Eygen
 
* Marleen Van Eygen
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=== Excused ===
 
=== Excused ===
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* Anne Nerenhausen
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* Bart Reekmans
 
* Geert Vandenhole
 
* Geert Vandenhole
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* Jean-Michel Polfliet
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* José Costa Teixeira
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* Katleen Smedts
 
* Pieter Devolder
 
* Pieter Devolder
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* Richard Francken (TBC, late arrival)
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* Richard Francken  
  
 
=== Agenda ===
 
=== Agenda ===
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=== Meeting Minutes ===
 
=== Meeting Minutes ===
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* Update on the latest version of at business document: no feedback
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* no feedback on the latest version of at business rules 0.17 document
 
* latest version of issues : https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
 
* latest version of issues : https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
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* issue with high priority: https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/70
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::* Discussion of interaction with Snomed CT - if available in Snomed CT, we don't need to foresee it in the FHIR profile ; if not available in Snomed CT, we need to foresee it in the FHIR profile
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::* RIZIV/INAMI will provide the list of SNOMED CT codes corresponding to the list that is now present in the Business Rules document (0.17), so that it becomes possible to analyse the impact on the further FHIR structure.
  
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::* use of RequestGroup : use serviceRequest always and depending on the use case combined with the RequestGroup - although the  
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* update on Request Group:
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::* implementation of the status diagram : new update of the business rules that includes statusses on treatments and prescriptions --> latest version is v17, see here https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/167
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::* updates have been made to the guidance documentation
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::* HL7 did not meet yet, although a new concept has been introduced: https://build.fhir.org/requestorchestration, looks far too fancy for what we want
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/165 Issue 165]: there is no TreatmentStatusReason anymore ?
 
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::* it is always there, values need to be checked
 
  
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* adding example scenarions with FHIR examples would be very useful as addition to the Implementation Guide, a new issue is created [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/168 Issue 168]
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* Annex 81: provided by Jacques Yakoub - for this annex there are some specific value codes: transition is made to the Snomed CT codes. Code for Annex 81 is present in the business rules document and will have to be validated with Snomed CT. Snomed CT does have a long release cycle though so it is important to have a list ready asap...
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* https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
  
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/163 Issue 163] : comments to guidance have been added, a color code has been established
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* we discuss [https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/search/timing.20datatype.20puzzle the timing datatype discussion] that was started by Bart for this WG
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::* the suggestions on the FHIR chat are not sufficient
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::* there are at least different 3 use cases that we have to formulate and move forward to HL7 int'l to check if they are covering them
  
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/160 Issue 160] : has been done but needs some review
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* issue https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/176
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::* accept only SSIN as identifier : this might cause issues if an SSIN is not immediately available but receives once afterwards, a SSIN can also change
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::::* a SSIN can get updated in GP softs through RN consult webservice
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::::* will have to be further investigated
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::::* functionality PIX Patient Identity Cross-referencing: https://profiles.ihe.net/ITI/PIXm/index.html
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::* limit format of dates that are entered
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::::* in FHIR incomplete dates can be entered
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::::* can be seen as an implementation preference
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::::* nomenclatuur needs a fixed date
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::* 1/ subject, requester, performer: invariant will be created with today's remarks that can be discussed
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::* 2/ validity...: can be implemented
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::* 3/ statusReason: is technical, no discussion needed
  
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''' Agenda next meeting'''
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=== Agenda next meeting ===
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* feedback on the last version of the business rules
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* updates from HL7 international on RequestGroup
 
* review issues
 
* review issues
  
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'''Next meeting - NEXT Week: Thursday Oct 27 at 4PM'''
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'''Next meeting (to make some progress): NEXT Week Thursday Oct 27 at 4PM'''

Latest revision as of 15:24, 20 October 2022

Attendees

  • Bart Decuypere
  • Benjamien Schmitt
  • Christophe Behaegel
  • Dorsan De Fabribeckers De Cortils Et Grâce, smals
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jacques Yaboub, smals
  • Jean-Francois Coquelet
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Laurent Lamouline, smals
  • Maarten Cobbaert
  • Marleen Van Eygen
  • Philippe Baise

Excused

  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bart Reekmans
  • Geert Vandenhole
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Katleen Smedts
  • Pieter Devolder
  • Richard Francken

Agenda

  • resolution of issues

Meeting Minutes

  • Discussion of interaction with Snomed CT - if available in Snomed CT, we don't need to foresee it in the FHIR profile ; if not available in Snomed CT, we need to foresee it in the FHIR profile
  • RIZIV/INAMI will provide the list of SNOMED CT codes corresponding to the list that is now present in the Business Rules document (0.17), so that it becomes possible to analyse the impact on the further FHIR structure.
  • update on Request Group:
  • Annex 81: provided by Jacques Yakoub - for this annex there are some specific value codes: transition is made to the Snomed CT codes. Code for Annex 81 is present in the business rules document and will have to be validated with Snomed CT. Snomed CT does have a long release cycle though so it is important to have a list ready asap...
  • https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/
  • the suggestions on the FHIR chat are not sufficient
  • there are at least different 3 use cases that we have to formulate and move forward to HL7 int'l to check if they are covering them
  • accept only SSIN as identifier : this might cause issues if an SSIN is not immediately available but receives once afterwards, a SSIN can also change
  • limit format of dates that are entered
  • in FHIR incomplete dates can be entered
  • can be seen as an implementation preference
  • nomenclatuur needs a fixed date
  • 1/ subject, requester, performer: invariant will be created with today's remarks that can be discussed
  • 2/ validity...: can be implemented
  • 3/ statusReason: is technical, no discussion needed

Agenda next meeting

  • updates from HL7 international on RequestGroup
  • review issues

Next meeting (to make some progress): NEXT Week Thursday Oct 27 at 4PM

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