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* Bart Decuypere
 
* Bart Decuypere
 
* Bart Reekmans
 
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* Elliot Ananaba (smals)
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* Cyprien Janssens
 
 
* Emily Sevrin
 
* Emily Sevrin
 
* Geert Vandenhole
 
* Geert Vandenhole
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* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet
 
* Jean-Michel Polfliet
 
* Julien Beard
 
* Julien Beard
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* Maarten Cobbaert  
 
* Maarten Cobbaert  
 
* Maxime Daive
 
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* Philippe Baise
 
 
* Philippe Lejoly
 
* Philippe Lejoly
 
* Robin Merckx
 
* Robin Merckx
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* Ben Goosse  
 
* Ben Goosse  
 
* Christophe Behaegel
 
* Christophe Behaegel
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* Cyprien Janssens
 
* Dorsan de Fabricheckers
 
* Dorsan de Fabricheckers
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* Hans De Keersmaecker
 
* Jacques Yakoub
 
* Jacques Yakoub
 
* Jean-Francois Coquelet  
 
* Jean-Francois Coquelet  
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* Pablo Christiaens
 
* Pablo Christiaens
 
* Pieter Devolder
 
* Pieter Devolder
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* Philippe Baise
 
* Richard Francken  
 
* Richard Francken  
  
 
=== Agenda ===
 
=== Agenda ===
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* continue resolution of issues (214, 250 and new issues)
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* continue resolution of issues  
  
 
=== Meeting Minutes ===
 
=== Meeting Minutes ===
 
* Project Update
 
* Project Update
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::* cookbook pseudonmisation is missing details, a new update will be released by eHealth Platform, no update on when we might expect this
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::* cookbook pseudonmisation is missing details, a new update will be released by eHealth Platform, no update yet on when we might expect this
  
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* Update from Cyprien on an enhanced offer/comodity for integrators using $graph:  
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* Update from Julien on an enhanced offer/comodity for integrators using $graph:  
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::* mainly ons SR is used for the phase 1 templates
 
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::* bePerformerTask is used
 
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::* working towards needing to do only one call
 
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::* [https://hl7.org/fhir/R4/graphdefinition.html#fetch $graph resource will be used], which can return a bundle, a set of resources
 
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::::* the graph operation will be on the service request
 
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::::* there is an example of this bundle, starting with the SR, then practioner role resource
 
 
::* it is part of the October release and does not have any impact on the June release  
 
::* it is part of the October release and does not have any impact on the June release  
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::::* it will be demonstrated in an example  
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::::* it is demonstrated in an example : there is a SR, a requester, practionerRole, all the tasks (global and performer tasks), all caregivers, when calling the graph you will get the resources in a bundle
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::::* the example will be added to the IG
  
 
* Continue resolution of issues
 
* Continue resolution of issues
 
* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/250 issue 250]:  no update from Maarten from the business  
 
* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/250 issue 250]:  no update from Maarten from the business  
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::* it should be possible to assign two different caregivers or performers, so the cardinality should be 1 to many
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::* so we need to add an extension
  
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/257 issue 257]: Anthony will clarify, let's look at [https://hl7.org/fhir/search.html#contained the search definitions for contained resources]: you will not be able to search for it as a separate resource, which is why UHMEP does not use it as it creates a lifecycle issue
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/257 issue 257] nd  [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/256 issue 256]: await discussion in HL7 BE WG infrastructure and security on 13 July
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/256 issue 256]: searching on the content is possible but no searching for the resource itself
 
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::* the issue remains open as it has to be looked into detail
 
  
 
* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/255 Consultation of a list of BeReferralPrescriptions - also with nihii number]
 
* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/255 Consultation of a list of BeReferralPrescriptions - also with nihii number]
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::* needed internal discussions
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::* both niss and inami number will be available but inami number will be optional, niss is mandatory
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::* a date will be settled to discuss more
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::* will they be available only for search ? it seems vitalink also needs this
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::* some more analysis will be done
  
 
* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/254 issue 254]
 
* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/254 issue 254]
 
::* why not allow resource logical "identifier" to be used instead of technical "id" to reference a resource?
 
::* why not allow resource logical "identifier" to be used instead of technical "id" to reference a resource?
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::* DPO needs to be consulted here
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::* DPO needs to be consulted here, we are still aiming for this solutions
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::* it is being looked to add a FHIR facade to Cobhra to manage practioners and practioners roles but there are only premature discussions ongoing
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/242 issue 242]
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::* this is for the next release but awaiting info from project team
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/77 issue 77]
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::* NIC needs to validate and will need to develop a field, there seems to be a need for some minor adjustments
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::* goal is to have one file, in what you see and what you send to NIC and INAMI for wound care & referral prescriptions
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/210 issue 210]
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::* Bart will check and close the issue
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/215 issue 215] and [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/218 issue 218]: are linked
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::* it is still linked to resources that might be needed for devices, is ongoing
  
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* [https://github.com/hl7-be/referral/issues/228 issue 228]
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::* discussions are still ongoing, the doctor is still the prescriber in the case of annex 81 although the nurse triggers it. There is a validation needed by the doctor. The nurse creates and completes and signs the annex 81 doc, the doctor signs/agrees with the nurse. The nurse is only the recorder
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::* issue can be closed
  
 
=== Agenda next meeting ===
 
=== Agenda next meeting ===
 
* continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases
 
* continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases
  
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'''Next meeting: next week Friday 7 July at 9AM '''
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'''Next meeting: Friday 25 August at 9AM '''

Latest revision as of 08:02, 7 July 2023

Attendees

  • Anne Nerenhausen
  • Bart Decuypere
  • Bart Reekmans
  • Elliot Ananaba (smals)
  • Emily Sevrin
  • Geert Vandenhole
  • Jean-Michel Polfliet
  • Julien Beard
  • Karlien Erauw
  • Maarten Cobbaert
  • Maxime Daive
  • Philippe Lejoly
  • Robin Merckx

Excused

  • Alexis Van Zeveren
  • Anthony Maton
  • Ben Goosse
  • Christophe Behaegel
  • Cyprien Janssens
  • Dorsan de Fabricheckers
  • Hans De Keersmaecker
  • Jacques Yakoub
  • Jean-Francois Coquelet
  • José Costa Teixeira
  • Katleen Smedts
  • Katrien Dickx
  • Katrien Thorré
  • Lionel Cremer
  • Marleen Van Eygen
  • Nathan Peeters
  • Laurent Lamouline
  • Pablo Christiaens
  • Pieter Devolder
  • Philippe Baise
  • Richard Francken

Agenda

  • continue resolution of issues

Meeting Minutes

  • Project Update
  • cookbook pseudonmisation is missing details, a new update will be released by eHealth Platform, no update yet on when we might expect this
  • Update from Julien on an enhanced offer/comodity for integrators using $graph:
  • it is part of the October release and does not have any impact on the June release
  • it is demonstrated in an example : there is a SR, a requester, practionerRole, all the tasks (global and performer tasks), all caregivers, when calling the graph you will get the resources in a bundle
  • the example will be added to the IG
  • Continue resolution of issues
  • issue 250: no update from Maarten from the business
  • it should be possible to assign two different caregivers or performers, so the cardinality should be 1 to many
  • so we need to add an extension
  • issue 257 nd issue 256: await discussion in HL7 BE WG infrastructure and security on 13 July
  • both niss and inami number will be available but inami number will be optional, niss is mandatory
  • will they be available only for search ? it seems vitalink also needs this
  • some more analysis will be done
  • why not allow resource logical "identifier" to be used instead of technical "id" to reference a resource?
  • DPO needs to be consulted here, we are still aiming for this solutions
  • it is being looked to add a FHIR facade to Cobhra to manage practioners and practioners roles but there are only premature discussions ongoing
  • this is for the next release but awaiting info from project team
  • NIC needs to validate and will need to develop a field, there seems to be a need for some minor adjustments
  • goal is to have one file, in what you see and what you send to NIC and INAMI for wound care & referral prescriptions
  • Bart will check and close the issue
  • it is still linked to resources that might be needed for devices, is ongoing
  • discussions are still ongoing, the doctor is still the prescriber in the case of annex 81 although the nurse triggers it. There is a validation needed by the doctor. The nurse creates and completes and signs the annex 81 doc, the doctor signs/agrees with the nurse. The nurse is only the recorder
  • issue can be closed

Agenda next meeting

  • continue resolution of issues and presentation of use cases

Next meeting: Friday 25 August at 9AM

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